• remon@ani.social
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    This. There is a reason why dumb displays of a similar size are much more expensive. Because the manufacturer can’t feed you ads and sell your data …

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      I don’t understand the need for those. My smart tv is functioning exactly as a computer monitor. It is connected via a display connection to my computer, and nothing else. It does show a brief warning that it is unconnected to the internet whenever I turn it on, but it disappears after 10 seconds or so.

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            2 days ago

            Yeah, and that is a very recent one from a not-that-well know company. Go figure!

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          It’s a possibility with chromebooks because of the google ad network, but I can’t see why consoles, linux, mac, even windows tbh, has any incentive to support this. At best, they might make it an option, but there’s nothing in it for them. It actively makes their content look worse, while an ad supported OS like windows already has capability to place ads anyway.

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            $$$

            Consoles are a shrinking market. If they were offered money by TV manufacturers to cooperate with putting more ads on it, they most certainly will.

            And I suspect Microsoft/Windows will too. Apple might not, though.

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              Yeah. Apple is plenty evil but not having ads is, generally, part of their “premium feel.” There are exceptions to this, unfortunately, especially recently.

              But I definitely don’t regret doing a factory reset on my LG TV and hooking up an Apple TV.

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          Ads via HDMI shouldn’t work if the TV doesn’t have internet connection, by my understanding. So I do not see any problems there.

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            oh don’t worry, they’ll start participating in mesh networks with your neighbors’ smart devices and getting internet access that way

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              or using like 4g/5g network for ads for free, sucking up all the data bandwidth from smartphone users so they can make sure we got our daily ad dosage!

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            I seem to recall reafing that smart TVs have a list of default passwords they use to try and connect to the to wifi networks they find…

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        My husband had the Tv connected to the internet, even though we watch everthing from the xbox. I changed the wifi password a few months ago, and never reconnected the TV.

        Best decision ever.

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        TVs often do a bad job at switching on when the computer turns on, then off when it turns off/goes to sleep. Drives me spare. That was fixed in like 1995-2000 for normal monitors.

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          CEC has been around for years. This is probably more an issue with the PC in question rather than the TV. TVs do an excellent job at turning themselves on when CEC is enabled. 👍

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            PCs have almost never supported CEC. PCs use a different signalling method to indicate to the monitor that they’re on/off.

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              Exactly. So they aren’t talking with the same protocol. TVs can turn themselves on, but PCs just don’t send the required signals. ✔️

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                LibreELEC (just enough OS for Kodi) on Raspberry Pi supports CEC. Does that count as a PC?

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        I use mine the same way, but many people don’t. My parents would rather be logged in on the tv than connect a laptop or other pc for the same access but better results

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        What are the chances the 10-second warning becomes a 90-second unskippable one?

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          As long as it isn’t internet connected, it shouldn’t happen - unless it’s programmed to automatically connect to any nearby unprotected WiFi to fetch updates…

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      And now look how high $ CRTs are, even the low end ones.

      I’ll never get rid of mine. You can’t get a 0 ms latency TV with zero “features” anymore. And those commercial TVs dont come with remotes. I never liked how flat screens look either. Laggy and awful colors. I’m sure a $3000 oled is great but no thanks

      I also despise massive TVs so another win. People with 80" TVs in their living room are just ick.