who would have guessed, that a culture that hates woman also hates every feminine act.

ironically the exclusive gay top is the manliest man by that definition, he doesn’t even enjoy the softness of women. good=more manly, bad=more feminine.

it all checks out with my experience (no, not sexual) way to many of the second or third generation turks in germany have a completely fucked up view of masculinity and women. gotta look tough all the time! so tough! turkey is the best! erdogan is great! this sub culture was strong when i was in school and is alive and well today