• Ooops@feddit.org
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    Yes, automation replaces jobs. In fact nearly every advance since long before the industrial revolution did. But it also increases the actual productivity per capita. So again the underlying problem is the system that transfers all gains up nowadays leaving less workers (with stagnating wages).

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      Productivity is such a bullshit idea… Like how do you measure productivity? In GDP? Because in that sense, inflation increases productivity (nevermind that what that really means is that more money moved around simply because everything costs more). Or are you measuring units shipped? What units? In what way could these be equivalent. Output for outputs sake is the definition of bullshit jobs. Most of this productivity people talk about is actually just meaningless toiling for meaningless output. We aren’t building homes or harvesting food or in any way bettering our lives, we are toiling towards tricking rocks into being forced to suffer consciousness or something as closely approximating that as possible. Leave the pretty rocks alone and do something useful, for something other than GDPee growth. In what way is making the number go whirrrrr worth destroying the biosphere? Nobody is happy. The rich are miserable because as it turns out even being the first person to a trillion net worth can’t fill the dad shaped hole in your heart and the poor are miserable because meaningless toil is not a great recipe for fulfillment. This whole system up to and including AI needs to go full sui, so we can get back to picking fleas of eachother’s backs… Or you know, whatever the fuck you feel like doing when society doesn’t have a gun to your head.

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      So again the underlying problem is the system that transfers all gains up nowadays leaving less workers (with stagnating wages).

      I.e. Capitalism.

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        Not that would be sad with it gone, but we had capitalism decades ago and the system still worked for the most parts. It’s the neoliberal lunacy pushed on us since the 80s/90s (depending on country).

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          23 hours ago

          the system still worked for the most parts

          You’re obviously not a third worlder and you don’t know a thing about the international division of labor.

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            Yes, when I’m talking about automation from the industrial revolution to the development of AI, the third world is obviously not the focus.