I know, I know, this is the internet and that’s not how it works. However, I’m weary of attempting to have a serious discussion only to be met with unserious and intellectually dishonest replies. For example, asking a specific and nuanced question and only getting replies that ignore the details or the question entirely.

Are there any communities where people make an honest effort to have real discussions? Where we take each others points seriously, demonstrate we understand them, and then address them?

There must be some communities like this, right?

Edit: I need to clarify that I am not criticizing or complaining about THIS community! I’m looking for communities focused on specific topics that have this attitude.

  • DomeGuy@lemmy.world
    81·
    15 hours ago

    Where we take each others points seriously, demonstrate we understand them, and then address them?

    This isn’t how human discussions work, unfortunately. At least not outside of formal debate clubs.

    Humans in general use language to understand or be understood. If you make an assertion and people “ignore” it by trolling, they are expressing that they have disdain for your position–which implies at least a coarse understanding of it.

    I’ve found that essentially any place on the internet can lead to worthwhile discussions, if you simply practice the habits of ignoring the trolls and engaging with those who respond to you.

      • DomeGuy@lemmy.world
        22·
        13 hours ago

        While I generally a fan of Wikipedia as a way to explain obscure terms people may not be familiar with, in this case I don’t think your linked article reflects a distinct concept worth seeking.

        People in general are honest in their discussions. Asserting that you want to have a dedicated space for “intellectual honesty” asserts that it isn’t workable in the extant communities, and implies that the rest of us are being “intellectually dishonest” if we are “partisan” or do not pretend our beliefs do not affect how we state facts.

        The internet writ large, and social media in particular, is neither a scientific journal nor academic forum nor business back-room. And biases always affect how we state facts.