I forgot to set a reminder so I’m a little late getting to this, but here we are again:
Are you a “tankie”?
Respond “yes” or “no”, I’ll collate results later
This process is being undertaken to determine if so-called “tankies” are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!
vague or informal answers will be interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments will be counted. I will not be providing further instructions or clarifications.
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Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,ml
Link to previous “are you a tankie?” thread
I’ll likely check back in a week, my old pc died so itll take a little bit of time to prettify the results and write a report
Ciao, and of course, imperialism must be destroyed.
Because pure communism breaks as soon as you have more than a few hundreds of people living together, in my opinion.
We are not ants, and we as a specie are doing things more for ourselves than for others.
A hypothetical society wanting to approach to the closest version of communism would need to be terribly authoritarian and selective, and would be very vulnerable to non workers pushing down the economy. To live in communism means to not let freedom to the workers. It is as unsustainable as fordism.
I don’t know what you mean by “pure” communism. Communism is a mode of production based on collectivized production and distribution, it isn’t a religious vow. Humans are indeed not ants, I don’t see why you think people being self-interested gets in the way of collectivized and planned production and distribution. As for scale, communism works far better at larger scales, and I would say necessarily requires it. I think you may be confusing communism with communalism.
I don’t know what you mean by needing to be “authoritarian to non-workers,” especially because that’s the default in capitalism unless you’re a capitalist. You can have social safety nets while still having the labor necessary to keep society functioning and thriving.
Where did you get this idea of communism?
Looked up on an encyclopedia, i admit i have been actually confusing communism with communalism, or communism at its primal sense. I had the idea that communism is the abolishment of private property and the equal repartition of remuneration between people, wether they work hard or not. Kind of like the functionning of ants. Simply got this idea from high school honestly (heh).
Though, if communism is only about collectivised production and distribution, i can see why it would be interesting to successfully implement it.
Honestly, i haven’t got a good enough knowledge of political alignments yet to be able to answer your question correctly, thank you for making me understand that. Do you reccomand any reads/authors who approached this topic?
Funny you ask, I actually made an entire Marxist-Leninist introductory reading list! It’s designed to introduce key concepts and take you from no knowledge of political theory whatsoever into becoming a good cadre in any ML org. You obviously don’t need the whole thing, though, you can just read or listen to section 0a and you’ll be more than good, even just the first half of the section.
Communism, essentially, is economically compelled by the existing trends of capitalism, ie centralization of markets around a few firms and sprawling production and supply chains, as well as capitalism’s contradictions, like overproduction leading to crisis and the struggle between workers and owners (workers want more for their labor, owners want to pay them less). Collectivized production and distribution has a number of ways to account for labor and resource management, it’s far more complex than just getting everything for free.
Let me know if you have any questions!