I heard that Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales leaders are planning to meet to break up UK. Is it really true? Anyone from UK here who can tell me what is actually happening there?

  • jobbies@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    It started with this article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/09/13/irish-scots-and-welsh-leaders-meet-to-plot-break-up-uk/

    Basically right now an independence referendum in Scotland can only be authorised by the Westminster (London) government. Whether Scotland wants one or not, thats how it is.

    For the first time there are independence-supporting administrations in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The first ministers of those countries will meet on Monday and agree a path forward, ultimately to make it harder for Westminster to say ‘no’ to future referendums.

    This doesn’t ‘kick start the break up of the UK’ - all it does is put pressure on Westminster not to block independence referendums when there’s an appetite for them. The Prime Minister and his government can choose to ignore that. Nothing is changing.

    The Telegraph and other right-leaning nonsense rags have latched onto this, exaggerating it because its red meat for their target audience. I think that’s where the ‘Russian interference’ is, but I’m not a unionist and one of them might explain it better.

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      3 hours ago

      Yankee here. If you have the time, I’d like to know a little bit more on what’s actually been happening over there. Honestly, with everything going on, it’s been hard to keep up. It’s been a lot of noise and very little information.

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        9 hours ago

        Pretty sure, yeah. Most of the UK papers are. The only one I know for sure is The Guardian. There’s probably others.

        The Observer, The Independent and The National (Scottish), The i and The Scotsman are either neutral or lefty.

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          7 hours ago

          The only one I know for sure is The Guardian.

          Is there a “not” missing? The Guardian is left leaning except their transphobia.

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            7 hours ago

            The BBC barely feels neutral, has mostly leaned right over the past decade.

            The only major left-leaning non-tabloid one I can think of is the Guardian.

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                5 hours ago

                It means semi-serious. Basically, you have broadsheets that purport to push serious journalism and tabloid papers that are more sensationalist and low-brow. Tabloids in the UK include The Sun (hugely popular, Murdoch-owned, right-wing scandal rag) and the way less popular Mirror (a left-leaning paper that sort of emulates The Sun’s style in an attempt to appeal to the masses).

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                5 hours ago

                Basically the guardian and i (that’s their name, a lowercase letter i, it’s so stupid)

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            8 hours ago

            Meh its okay but they’re under pressure to give voice to racist bigots in the interest of ‘balance’.

            You should listen to 5 live (one of their radio stations). You wouldn’t believe what they let some people say live on air.