If it was literally impossible to make any profit off AI, how do you think things would look like now?

  • one_old_coder@piefed.social
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    zero profit incentive [for a technology that costs $billions]

    It would not exist. Or if you insist, it would be a science-fiction book, Asimov wrote a lot of that.

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    AI existed long before Big AI. Even if there was no profit incentive, it would still be useful for academic research, physics research, language studies, etc.

    LLMs were invented in 2017 (as an improvement upon RNNs from 2014) but for-profit Big AI companies didn’t really exist until 2022.

    Note: OpenAI came out with GPT-3 (175 billion parameters) in 2020 but at the time it was still a non-profit company. That year was the point where Big Money decided to invest heavily into AI.

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    Maybe the open source stuff would exist, after all there will always be nerds doing this stuff for the fun of the game, and some companies would be using the open source models to build customer chat bots or in-house troubleshooting agents. Things that help them move faster or more efficiently. I don’t think the audio, video, or code generating models would be far enough along to be useful at all.

    • I Cast Fist@programming.devOP
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      Plenty of slop is making a profit passing off as news sites. There’s also the video slop flooding the big social media sites, earning ad revenue

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        The more of them that are, the less they’re worth. It’s only a matter of time before it costs more to make a slop video than what it can make in ad revenue.

        I don’t know the pricing, but the cost is going up while the revenue is going down. The easy slop earning model is going to peak within a year if it hasn’t already.

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    afaik when GPT-3 first came out there was still no profit incentive, so maybe something like the new mistral model would be the frontier today. Just guessing though

    • I Cast Fist@programming.devOP
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      Since the majority of AI use today is fully profit driven, what would be left if there was no money to be made at all with it

      • thejml@sh.itjust.works
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        A lot of people/companies that use it do it not to directly make money, but for productivity gains and automation that saves time or money or finding issues they didn’t know they had before other people do.

        It’s like saying “what if there was no profit from using this chainsaw over a two person bow saw to cut down a tree.” I am not directly profiting off of the chainsaw, but it saves me paying a person and allows me to be more efficient.

        The only people “making money” from AI are the companies hosting it, and there are plenty of local models you can run instead, they just might not be as good/scaleable yet.