Dr. Jenkem

It’s one of the only platforms that doesn’t actively suppress left wing views with its algorithm.

I’d be fine with EU style regulations on social media, or depending on how it’s written, a more broader ban of social media in general. But banning tiktok only will do nothing to address the concerns you raised. Instead it just funnels people into social media ecosystems that greatly favor right wing sentiment and allow easy access for the 3 letter agencies.

It’s about maintaining the ability to manufacturer consent. Tiktok presents a hurdle to that.

Ehh, I disagree. A counter example; I’d bet money that folks in England know more about our country than we do theirs, especially when it comes to politics and current issues. I’m pretty sure most Americans wouldn’t be able to name the British PM or even what party is in power there. Everyone there probably knows Biden is the president and that he is a Democrat.

Also, Al Jazeera publishes in English, I don’t think language is the primary barrier. American media just generally doesn’t cover foreign affairs all that much (and when they do, they generally do a shit job).

Yeah I agree for the most part. I will say I think moderation can have problems though (example: Reddit for a while did that thing where they would ban 1 fascist subreddit for inciting violence against minorities and then also ban 10 leftist subreddits for people saying John Brown was based).

But I think it depends on how the platform is designed and how moderation is implemented. Lemmy’s implementation is some of the best I’ve seen.

But I do agree, some form of moderation is necessary.

Yeah, I think the amount of non-fascist people has gone down since Musk bought Twitter. I anticipate it will continue with that trend. The process is not instant, especially when the platform is as pervasive as Twitter. But I think Twitter is a good demonstration of why moderation is a good thing.

And yeah, moderation is often not implemented in a perfect way. But I think Lemmy’s transparency (mod logs) approach is an improvement over traditional moderation.

Sure but without moderation you’re left with a Nazi echo-chamber. When there’s no mechanism to kick out the Nazis, most normal people will leave over time. A platform that allows Nazis just becomes a Nazi platform.

I’m not sure, but in my opinion, moderation is necessary. Any network without moderation will be flooded with Nazis and pedophiles. I don’t think you’ll have a good time.

That’s one of the worst Lemmy instances imo.

I mean, even without straight up saying his age, the advice is boomer-coded. I’m not even saying it’s bad advice. But it’s not relevant to the title of the post.

It’s because you fucked up the assignment. Under 30 give advice, over 30 receive advice.

I’d be willing to bet humans also innately believe the earth is flat (in your day-to-day life it certainly doesn’t look like we’re on a spherical object hurling through space), but that doesn’t make it so.

Literally quoting you lol.

I’m old enough to remember “asl?”. Why do you ask about my age, looking for an easy way to dismiss me?

Out of curiosity, are you religious?

To shame someone is entirely different than to feel ashamed of yourself.

Is it? The end result is a feeling of shame. And that feeling of shame, doesn’t make people lose weight. I’ve now said it for the 4th time. But yeah, I’m the one that doesn’t understand words.

If you kick a dog, you should feel ashamed of yourself without someone shaming you. If you forgo a healthy weight or lifestyle in favor of overconsumption and ignorance, you should feel ashamed of yourself without someone shaming you.

I see, so it’s a moral failing of someone to be fat? Akin to kicking a dog? Wild take.

In the end, you’re right. I’m not interested in having this conversation. Because this isn’t a conversation about making people healthier, it’s a moral conversation. And I don’t think someone is immoral for having an eating disorder just as I don’t think someone is immoral for having cancer.

If you would like to discuss actionable, material ways to help people I’m all in. If you want to larp as a televangelist screeching about the evils of being fat, I’m out.

I’m frankly not even clear what the conversation is that you’re trying to have. You claim, “I’m not saying we should shame people” and then go on to once again declare that “if people feel ashamed they’ll lose weight”. So which is it, is shame helpful as a weightloss tool or not? Spoiler alert: it’s not.

To me it honestly seems like you accidentally triple downed on an objectively bad position and are trying to buzzword your way out of it with accusations of virtue signaling and trolling.

Just take the L and move on dude.

Do I need to repeat myself for a 3rd time? Do you not realize that “ashamed” is the adjective form of “shame”?

If you’re ashamed for being overweight, that’s something that should motivate you to lose the weight.

You would think so, but you’d be wrong. As I said before, shaming not only doesn’t work but has the opposite effect.

As James Corden said:

If making fun of fat people made them lose weight, there’d be no fat kids in schools.

If you’re sincere in your desire to make people healthier, then shame is not the way.

If you’re only interested in a feeling of superiority, then carry on I guess.

Damn that’s sad to hear man.

I think I now understand why you believe women are only interested in extracting value out of you. It’s because that’s how you’ve been treated. And further, you’ve accepted this as a universal truth. And when entering new relationships yourself, you start with the question, what value can I extract from this other person? That’s probably why you don’t have any male friends, because you can’t extract any value from them. And you self-select for romantic relationships in the same way. You’re stuck in a cycle. If you remain set in your view that relationships are transactional, it’s hard to imagine you ever experiencing one that is not.

Do you have any platonic relationships? Like family or friends? Are these relationships transactional for you as well?

I don’t think most women are that cynical. Like do transactional relationships exist? Absolutely, but I don’t think that’s the majority of them and you probably don’t want that kind of relationship anyways.

In fact, in my experience, women are typically made uncomfortable when I try to insist on paying for the entire bill on a date.

I think for a lot of women, it’s as simple as, “am I comfortable and do I have fun when I’m hanging out with this guy?”.

But at the end of the day, women are not a monolith that all think and act the same. Just as men are not a monolith that all think and act the same. So it is unwise to assume all women want the same things out of a relationship.

I agree that we should strive for people to be healthy. But there’s a lot of evidence to suggest that shame not only is ineffective but can actually have the opposite effect.

Besides, I think you’re being pretty reductive. Health includes both physical and mental, we should take steps to improve both of these. And I get the sense that you specifically take issue with body positivity specifically around fat people, as I assume you don’t think being short or tall is unhealthy. In which case, you’re ignoring the economics of it (at least in America, there are a ton of government subsidies for corn, incentivizing businesses to load up our food with corn syrup).

The issue is complex and so would any solutions. At least in America, we need to deincentivize the production of unhealthy food, better access to healthcare, and cultural shifts as well. And I’m sure there’s a whole lot I’m missing.

Reading comprehension is hard my bad.

Edit: wait no, it’s “easy” I’m just dumb.