You personally don’t have to engage at all. In fact with the way algorithms work, very specifically do NOT engage if you’re not ready to go all in. But be aware that there are plenty of people out there ready to fill the information void with whatever nonsense that benefits them.
Nobody has to be a crusader against misinformation, but I’d strongly caution against thinking that just ignoring the problem will make it go away.
If you define this subjectively, from where comes the wording “we must” and “we need to” in your earlier messages?
Your words: “we must destroy consensus reality” “We need to kill the idea of objective reality”
In your world of free, subjective experience first, are people not allowed to form consensus that disagrees with your subjective ideals?
How do you define what a realist cage is without being informed by objective reality?
…no? Help me out?
Edit: Sorry, I misunderstood you lol
Neither. I just enjoy picking apart philosophical arguments.
If objective reality doesn’t exist, then your definition of ‘subjective’ is just a consensus-based hallucination you inherited from your own comfort. How do you know your ‘multiverse’ isn’t just a realist’s cage you haven’t recognized yet? Your own argument destroys the premise upon which it rests. Also, what if my subjective experience includes what I would characterize as objective reality? You would be imposing your own definition on to me, again destroying your own premise.
Good on you for asking! Dawkins doesn’t prove there’s no God; he argues the idea isn’t necessary to explain reality. The burden of proof isn’t on him to disprove an unfalsifiable claim, it’s on those making the claim to provide testable evidence. That’s how critical thinking works.
https://youtu.be/Qf03U04rqGQ?t=301
As for “How do you learn without learning?” you don’t. But a lot of people confuse rote repetition (parroting Dawkins or the Bible) with understanding (grappling with the arguments themselves). One’s memorization; the other’s understanding.
Wow, that’s… not quite what I meant. The goal isn’t to reject objective reality, it’s to question how we define it and who gets to decide what counts as “real.” Pushing people to explore their own perspectives is one thing, but encouraging pure solipsism just replaces one dogma with another. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater, yeah?
Oh my gosh, thank you for responding this way 😭
I feel like on Lemmy it’s really difficult to ever post anything but total agreement without it immediately becoming an argument. Glad we found common ground!
I get what you’re saying, but you’re kind of setting up a strawman yourself here here. Not every idea deserves endless debate, sure, it’s about the habit of dismissing things as “stupid” without even considering them. Sure, lizard people and bricks fixing teeth are absurd. But those examples are extreme on purpose, and they don’t really address the core of people rejecting ideas out of hand just because they’re unfamiliar or uncomfortable. If an idea is actually bad, it will fall apart under scrutiny. But if the default response is just “that’s dumb,” we’re not thinking critically, we’re just avoiding the work, and worse, we are participating in a culture where it’s okay to do so. Which is exactly what leads to people getting (and abusing) terrible ideas.
Remedy to stupidity isn’t LESS critical thinking.
I unironically think the braindead atheism online greatly contributed to the rise of Christian nationalism we’ve been seeing in the past decade…
Kinda. Or at least beginning to exit it. The Matrix has plenty of intentional Buddhist undertones. And Revolutions features a vedic hymn in its soundtrack, also signaling the idea of waking up from illusion.
Oh absolutely it is. And to some degree it’s understandable: it’s vulnerable and icky icky icky so there’s an inclination to find and provide ways to mask and suppress emotions instead of expressing them. It takes a lot of strength to be vulnerable, and you can only build that strength by being vulnerable. It’s far easier to suppress.
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You didn’t, you just learned to push them down.
I’ve learned not to cry. I don’t know if that is a good thing or not…
It’s not healthy. Emotional expression is part of being a human but many cultures have normalized emotional suppression. Read what Vodian wrote, I think it might be useful.
It’s just getting your locked up nervous system to cooperate. Kinda like pushing a car to start it up.
This right here!!! Humanity has this artificial divide between mind and body as if your brain was somehow not connected to every part of you. I’ve spoken with people who couldn’t understand the very question “how does sadness feel in your body”. They would explain they thought person x had been mean and that made think it was wrong and that made them think they should do something yap yap yap but never actually answering the question. It’s especially true for men and that’s incredibly sad.
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Welcome ☺️ if you’re really interested, I frankly recommend trying meditation rather than try to understand the theory. The Way App from Henry Shukman is pretty good.
So we got right back to where we started.
I rather practice Buddhism.