There’s no real reason to. Your own instance (in this case, lemmy.world) has the real view of the thread by the virtue of being the instance starting the thread. lemmy.ml only has it’s own copy of this thread that’s likely reasonably accurate (compared to any other random instance out there, considering it hosts the community), but it’s not the original version, which is what the fediverse link points to.
The Pleroma family of ActivityPub servers are on Elixir and their bottleneck seems to be their awful database schema where everything is JSONB, and even then they’re known to be quite lightweight, so I assume with a proper DB schema it’d work quite well…
I would absolutely boost this to the microblog-verse if Lemmy federation with Misskey wasn’t broken
mastodon doesn’t “discover” akkoma content and won’t show anything unless you’re following a user from there, which kinda sucks.
I mean – that’s how all of them work. Even Lemmy. Unless your instance administrator joins relays (which have tradeoffs between privacy / effectiveness of blocking) your instance is only ever aware of posts from followed people (and reply threads followed people are involved in)
(also MUCH lighter on server resources, compared to most other twitter-like alternatives)
Mastodon is just unusually heavy, really. Even Misskey & forks are lighter than Masto on the server side (preferring being bloated on the client instead)
Mastodon feels like a fucking funeral.
You’re clearly nowhere near the good parts, then.
In my experience, once when you find your way into the correct circles the microblog-verse makes the “shitposting” of Lemmy look like r/memes. I do agree that discoverability could be better though, it took me 4-5 months before I got the hang of it. And now I barely check Lemmy despite my Lemmy account being older than my earliest microblog account (under this name, anyway).
One important thing is that your instance matters quite a bit more than here. Starting on a large general purpose instance (especially if it’s mastodon.social) and just following Large Accounts and Nobody Else like most people recommend for some reason is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Instead, get on a smaller interest-specific instance (rule of thumb: the weirder the domain the better your experience will be!) and follow the local timeline (and on good software, the bubble/recommended timelines). And post stuff/interact with people. Don’t be that one person that does nothing but boost news bots and occasionally butt into replies of people asking rhetorical questions they already know the answer for.
(Perhaps Lemmy is better at news or whatever, I wouldn’t know as I block all news communities I can find – I just don’t see the point as all the discussion around most news ends up predictable, unproductive (not that internet communities necessarily need to be “productive”), and unnecessarily angry)
Also in a world with usable™ Misskey forks and Akkoma I think the limitations of Mastodon the software are really starting to show, and I urge anyone who’s been disappointed in Mastodon to try other microblog software. (Quotes are already a thing if you know where to look! So are emoji reactions, because people have more emotions than :star:)
the 0.19 implementation is so half-assed I genuinely think the Lemmy devs just don’t want that functionality but expected quite a lot of backlash if they outright said as much, so they decided to implement something that ticks the box in the “wanted features” list without having any effect
afaik it only blocks communities and explicitly lets users from blocked instances through
over the years of using matrix i’ve become convinced that the people behind it simply have different priorities than people who actually want to use it. they’re mainly interested in the tech parts as opposed to making communication tools.
if you look at the “hype” behind matrix, it’s all about “the protocol”. federation, p2p “host a homeserver on each client”, encryption, bridging, complex state resolution algorithms, peppered with some vague marketing crap about owning your own data. nerd shit or, in the best case scenario, pipe dreams of a magic future that could come with all this flexible tech we’re building
notice how there’s nothing about actual communities. little to any discussion on moderation tooling, or ease of use. it’s all tech. they only care about the tech. the communities? uh well they’ll happen somehow
“matrix chat” is just a tech demo of the matrix protocol the same way https://github.com/matrix-org/thirdroom or that fucked up twitter clone they were building at one point is.
this turned into a bit of a rant but the people working on matrix need to have a deep inner look and explicitly work out if they want to work on “cool tech” or work on tools for building communities. also stop working on so many useless side projects and focus on making one thing that works.
https://tildes.net/invite should let you generate some
Every time a site update/announcement/whatever happens everyone with an account older than like a week (iirc?) gets topped up to 5-10 invites. You can (could?) also just go to r/tildes or email and ask. They use invites more as a way to slow registrations down than to be an exclusive club so it’s really not that hard to get your hands on one.
I imagine infinite scrolling would be much easier on the server (and overall less janky with less repeated posts) and therefore more likely to be added after 0.19.x due to the switch to cursor-based pagination. That said Lemmy devs may or may not be against something like that on the default frontend due to well being reasons (unsure on where they stand on this tbf)
That said, custom frontends do exist and I assume there has to be at least one out there that already supports it (and isn’t mobile only)
AFAIK no open source library exists. Open implementations of gesture typing do exist (FlorisBoard had it some time ago, though it’s going through a significant rewrite still) but the lib loading on OpenBoard is specially intended to use Google’s proprietary libraries. (Which is why it’s an external download and not built-in)
Or that’s what the state of things were the last time I checked.
i was thinking of attempting something of that sort but i quickly realized that it’d be even more useful as a generic “list of communities for/about [thing]”, and people could then use that generic list both as a subscription list AND as a block list, depending on their interests
and then i swiftly gave up realizing the scale of it all so if anyone wants to run with this idea feel free to do so
I imagine the most “ideal” outcome would be “whatever link the default webui shows as the fediverse link (the colorful icon on all posts / comments)”, as that’s the “canonical” link (technically, the ActivityPub ID, which is I think required to be a link as per the spec) of that specific post or comment.
It’d be the most accurate in terms of visibility (could be deleted by OP and the delete might not reach your instance), latest edits, vote counts, and replies for that specific thing, that said it’s definitely not as convenient as just copying the link in your URL bar and pasting it to wherever.
Also depending on the exact software running on an instance, that link may not point to a human readable page, but that’s a pretty rare edge case that even the most incomplete real life implementations I’m aware of handle reasonably well (even if it ends up doing a redirect)
i belieive lemmy groups will boost the like activities they receive to all instances, whereas mastodon doesn’t try that sort of thing (likely due to privacy reasons, as this means all instances know who liked what)
I remember looking into it back when lemmynsfw was brand new and flooding all with un-nsfw’d porn and the devs seemed to be explicitly against giving mods the ability to edit posts, which NSFW tagging kinda falls under.
That’s why gated communities like Tildes and all these curated instances will never reach Reddit levels: they are starving the engine.
The phrasing here kinda implies this is a bad thing and everyone should be focused on 🚀 constant growth 🚀.
Tildes in particular has an extreme focus on quality over quantity and has some really interesting ideas on moderation (that haven’t been implemented due to lack of time on Deimos’ part). The site is still considered an alpha after all this time.
Another thing I would like to suggest is a change in recruitment strategy. At this point it seems like we are unlikely to pull a significant amount of users from Reddit without more reddit-policy-driven migration, but there are tons of highly educated and engaged users over on Mastodon that would make serious positive contributions to the tone and quality of the discourse over here. For some reason there seems to be minimal overlap between the two communities and that blows my mind. Not only that but I actively see folks disparaging Mastodon in fediverse related communities on a regular basis (and even sometimes in the Mastodon communities themselves). As far as I can tell, these are largely lingering sentiments from a Reddit/Twitter dichotomy. Remember, as things develop the lines between threaded social media and microblogging are likely to blur. A significant number of Mastodon apps already provide a threaded view and one of kbins explicit goals is very much to bridge the gap. With this in mind, Mastodon (and federated microblogging more generally) seems like the best source for new potential users.
A thing to look out for is that the microblog fedi (outside the big handful of instances that fill .world’s role there) is strongly in favor of stricter instance-level moderation compared to the more “individualistic” view a lot of the Reddit migratees tend to have. If we want people from the microblog fedi to participate we (collectively) need to up our moderation game. (And in my personal opinion instances like .world have grown too large to accomodate any reasonable expectation of moderation, except for select individual communities set up there)
If you are explicitly aware that different instances specialize in different concerns I can absolutely see the use for a feature like that, but most people want a feature of that sort just so they can “paper over” federation and pretend to have one giant community with one giant moderation policy / culture / priorities.
And that is before getting to the absolutely horrible idea of automatically generating multi-communities by merging communities with the exact same name regardless of their instance.
i’m pretty excited for fedify since i’m unsure if there has been any other activitypub abstraction that feels as comprehensive as it seems right now (from a brief skim, anyway).
one thing i had in mind ever since i first skimmed the docs some time ago is this:
i would really recommend you to NOT tell people to use handles here. i assume this is just naming and the framework doesn’t actually require a handle there, but documentation matters and if you follow on the footsteps of mastodon, pleroma, lemmy, and friends everyone who follows your docs will lose the ability to change usernames down the line without more pain than it’s worth (and yes, there are software out there that allow it right now! please do not build fedi software assuming usernames are immutable jsut because mastodon doesn’t let people do it)
just like how you wouldn’t use a natural key in a database, you should tell people to use a surrogate key like an autoincrement id or a uuid on the actor IDs, as they’re effectively permanent. while it may be probably fine for a quickstart thing like this to omit that, a lot of permanent codebases do start up by following these kinds of guides, and nudging people to do the correct thing when it’s not that hard is always a good idea IMO