

If you don’t want to engage in a civil discussion, that’s alright with me. But if you run out of arguments, just stop commenting?


If you don’t want to engage in a civil discussion, that’s alright with me. But if you run out of arguments, just stop commenting?


Sorry, but this is not how you talk to people.


Yeah, I absolutely agree. I guess this is one of the reasons these “inter left” discussions are so exhausting.


I see where you are going. Well, how anti Zionism and antisemitism are interconnected is subject to the current scientific debate and I won’t start a fundamental discussion on this topic with you. What is important for me in the end is, that I am standing against the left that is openly sympathizing with the Hamas.


Me
[…] people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy […]
You
It does not make you a Zionist on Lemmy. You are a Zionist in real life.
Again you
You said supporting Hamas is antisemitic. Why are you crawling back to the word Zionism now?
Me
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“Opposing Hamas makes you a Zionist”, can you confirm that statement?


What if I told you my instance didn’t conduct a check of political attitude when joining?


How to we call a tankie triad when it is actually four? dbz0 is following ml, hexbear and lemmygrad for a longer time now.


I mean “leftist organization” is a weird term and I would more speak of currents. And there is definitely the Antideutsche or Anti-Germans.
The German left, at least the loud one, is publically dividing between this topic. On demonstration you see a lot of people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy, as there is often only “anti genocide and pro genocide” in online discussions. But the world is very complex and there is a large continuum between Islamic and Jewish ethno state philosophy.


A simplified world view is really tempting sometimes. What if I told you that fighting anti semitism and being pro genocide are two things that can be distinguished from each other?


Germans know that the biggest German news paper, Bild, is a right propaganda paper at least since the 60s. They publish fake news on a regular basis and have an absolutely inhumane concept of society. Politico was bought by Axel Springer, the very same publisher in 2021. They are not yellow press, still they belong to the same publisher and for sure follow the same interests.
Yes, you are allowed to post articles from Politico, but we are allowed to criticize you for it.


Israel has a very special connection to the Jewish Religion, which makes it different to most other county religion (if we exclude the islamistic ethno states). Israel committing genocide in Gaza is whataboutism here though.
Statements like “this was Israel all along” and “mossad did this” yield many internet points these days because it feeds peoples world views. Without any explanation why this would indeed be true and any proof, it still feeds conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theories are more than often deeply connected to Antisemitism, and this is the case here as well. I know using the forbidden A-word will completely derail this discussion here by enraging the tankie triad and it’s saympathisants. But I don’t mind because I find it dangerous to leave context less comments like yours alone.


So the Jews are at the top of this network and controlling the world in secret? I think I have heard this somewhere before…


But it means my computer has to be always on doesn’t it


I’m not an immutable guy, but from what I heard it’s more of a way to address programs and dependency hell, less the user modifying system code. Correct me if I am wrong


As much as I understand your hate for LLMs, this is wrong.
But you know the product and that is what is important for advertisers. Also it’s important what happens subconsciously, not so much your first reaction to it.