if someone chooses to be on a platform and they don’t get any benefit from it then they shouldn’t be on it.

The platform owner(s) definitely have motivations and/or an agenda. Safe to assume the owner is a stakeholder and therefore is not guaranteed to be hands off forever.

Both of these are besides the point. The question is, why do people stay on a platform?

Centralised social media did, and is, doing extremely well by most metrics.

Such as censorship (everywhere). shadowbanning (X), ownership by an egomaniac slyster (X), blue badges (X), and being ganged up on (reddit). i’m ignoring platforms for addicts such as tiktok, youtube, and instagram.

Which matrix are we ignoring in order come to the conclusion legacy social media is doing well? Be specific.

we’re not missed

You are right.

At the same time, those platforms are not providing enough value for users to stick around.

i’m a milk tea addict. Carry around cinnamon and nutmeg. And hang out on github.

These are horrible vices. But no excuse for having divergent opinions.

Telegram is fine.

Signal will be gone tomorrow and you’ll lose your network. Moving networks from one platform to another is impossible. So we end up creating new networks.

Currently i’m making a network of Python coders i’ve collaborated with. The communication medium is not consistent nor ideal.

Hate email with a passion. So of course most the communication is going over plain text email. Tried pushing for communication on plain text mastodon.

Your welcome. Use it in good health. And please excuse my colorful prose.

There is many many comments on Telegram bleeding the phone number. And only one comment saying that doesn’t have to be the case.

You are right but

we like doing the wrong thing over and over again. And being surprised, each and every time, when it turns out to be wrong. Never picking up onto the repeating simple pattern.

1111111111111 what’s the next number … errrr Signal! That’s it you got it. Good job.

Embrace the idiocracy!

This is why Telegram is awesome.

Eventually you will come around and realize how hopeless humanity is and embrace that it is well beyond hope.

And then you will have a larger network and enjoy each and every one of them.

Then talk about coding. Non-techies curl up into a ball and die slightly inside as they run for the exits.

Highest form of encryption possible.

Try it

And if that is not enough to kill someones spirit and make them beg for mercy, recite random sections of the GNU Make documentation out of context and watch them go into convolutions.

I was sold on threats and coersion. Lets do more of that

The real world, with non-tech people needs solutions that are easy, fast and as close to foolproof as possible.

Nope. Grandma gets a smartphone

Meaning they are hopeless and it’s impossible for them to emulate a techie.

It’s a fools errand.

Just stop trying to pretend Grandma is something more than completely unimportant and forgettable and hopeless and more likely than not merely a pest.

I’m so tired of entertaining Grandmas.

This 1 + 1 = 2 logic is boring. It’s trying to escape out of a wet paper bag over and over again. Whatever your 1 + 1 = 2 logic is their is another guy who can drive a bus staight thru it. Every single time.

In a year from now you will find out you are completely mistaken and just repeating nonsense. Every freak’n time.

Just for once, do the wrong thing. Make the wrong choice on purpose.

Instead of seeing never ending red flags. Today see purple flags. And tomorrow orange. Cuz why do flags always have to be red?

You can be right or you can have fun.

Do the wrong thing sometimes. Live a little.

Signal pretends not to.

I prefer Telegram’s honesty.

We are Telegram and we are here to help. And to make it more fun we will send all your communications to Russia for a change.

Oh man! Where do i sign up /nosarc

You are right. But just not a fun person capable of seeing the humor in this.

Everyone is listing the features of both and not choosing wrong on purpose!

I like sending all my conversations to Russia. It makes me laugh.

As long as i have someone wasting their time trying to snap out of their sleepy deer in headlights stupor after listening to a coder talk about coding.

I also love doing this on facebook messenger too.

Everyone worries about censorship. One thing that is never censored is a coder talking about coding. Cuz the DEI hire head explodes after one second of listening to that.

Try it! It’s magical.

In Telegram, you never have to expose your phone number. If you like walking into traps then of course you can.

But can make minimal efforts to not be a degenerate avoiding this obvious easily avoidable trap.

How to avoid exposing your phone number

Make a group called i'm not a complete utter idiot. Whenever you have a friend wanting to connect, make a group link, send it to them, have them join. After joining have them send a message in the group. Just, “Hi”. Nothing more. Less is more.

Look for that message and click on the person’s name. You are now connected. Send them a personal message, “Hi!”.

You can also add them as a contact without sharing your phone number.

Your friend will probably be a degenerate and expose their phone number. Teach them how to go into settings to always hide it.

Try not to call them a degenerate, degenerates hate that.

Also try not to think of them as a degenerate, they will already know that and be proud of it and not understand why you don’t share their enthusiasm.

So control what thoughts you project into the ether. If you have to change the topic in your mind to something involving flowers singing birds and clouds.

recognizing the pattern of owners/mods abusing power and no one really agreeing what exactly that entails, will always find that decentralization is the way that it has to be.

We tried centralization and doesn’t go well. The answer is not to keep trying the same thing.

Was presented with this question. Lets simplify it and remove the spin.

Are you ok with your enemy using the software you've published?

I quickly answered, yes! It's open source. This must include enemies

Similar to free speech, censorship aside, if not willing to defend essholes being essholes then don’t really have free speech

Linus Torvalds slipped, tossing Russian maintainers. Politicizing open source makes it open for some, but not for others.

Which is a real dilemma cuz i hate everyone equally

To answer your question, the fediverse welcomes Nazi fascists commis gays whatever running instances. If don’t like the instance moderators can always jump on another instance. And instances owners do not federate with instances they don’t like.

… and the world goes on just fine

Clearly marked and qualified it as just my opinion

Will survive someone disagreeing with you.

and the only regret, there isn’t a gravestone to visit to piss on.

huuuu yeah

bring on the fireworks and lets get the show on

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/it-appears-that-someone-urinated-on-rush-limbaughs-grave-39565153

i respect your opinion, your right to have an opinion, glad you shared your opinion, glad to read opposing opinions, Glad your opinion was not suppressed or censored or shadow banned, that someone having purchased access doesn’t drown out your opinion, and others refrained from ganging up to suppress the opposing view.

Sometimes in echo chambers the opposing opinion turns out to be right.

This is not one of those cases. <-- my opinion position

But i really liked that you posted and the opposing opinion was given a fair access to eye balls

with a federated linked network of social media sites run by it’s users

Regardless if he is a saint or not, it’s super centralized social media and we shouldn’t support it

We are all on federated lemmy and have moved off State owned or sponsored corporate social media.

Whether you lean left right or something else, everyone needs communication and financial privacy. Otherwise the State will crush you. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but on a long enough time line, it’s inevitable, YOU WILL BE CRUSHED.

The State and MSM lost the narrative. And we will not regress