Ahh yeah I guess I understand that. But is it that different from when they included Skype with o365 licensing?

I sell Microsoft licensing and agree that Teams is quite a bloated mess. “Let’s take a video conferencing software, mix in instant messaging, a share point backend and also whatever else seems good”

I miss when I had slack but as a MSP we use what we sell unfortunately.

Kinda confused by this, you can buy teams licensing directly from Microsoft without a bundle: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/compare-microsoft-teams-options#tabx2feaf2053ffc4566a48cdcc58109c73a