Love it! Reddit was unusable to me with its crazy mods, so I mostly lurked. I also personally find lemmings to be more welcoming than redditors.

And I like to be somewhere closer to the start of the journey we’re all making here on Lemmy even though it’s been years since it was released. We’re still early (but for real, unlike with creepto).

Well, something like this.

Remote work threatens the status quo.

I suppose it’s not that unclear if you compare the revenue of all other industries combined to the revenue of the advertising industry. The ratio is pretty large and every type of industry buys ads, so it trickles down from everywhere.

I really cannot understand why advertising is such a huge business. Where does all the money spent on advertising really come from?

It’s so that the machine elves have some time to hide!

On a serious note, I found this explanation here:

Washing machines must have some way in which you can lock the door closing mechanism when the machine is started up and then unlock them with a certain delay (normally two minutes) after the current has switched off via the program or on/off switch, in order to ensure that the door cannot be opened while some of the components are still rotating initially (in particular the motor and the drum of the spin-dryer).

Washing machines have a bi-metal strip inside the door lock which is heated by PTC Heater (resister) when live and neutral are activated on to the pcts it heats up and bends the bi-metal strip which then moves the arm to activate the common terminal and push a pin into the closed door to lock it in place. Once this has happened (usually a second or so see video) the power then can flow through to the common wire, and therefore on to the rest of the machine allowing it to start.

It was a metaphor for personal hygiene.

Weren’t we all supposed to become “prompt engineers”?

Orthography is hygiene for written thoughts.

The Hands Resist It!

I would say since faking most Lemmy interactions isn’t profitable, there’s no point in using chatbots to generate content for it apart from, perhaps, some sort of a social experiment, but your exposure to such experiments would likely be minimal.

Of course, you should always beware of astroturfing when, for example, looking at product recommendations, but I don’t think we’re there yet in terms of numbers to be a target.

Ironically I haven’t yet read any of the books in the trilogy, but I plan to do it soonish.

The coolest name.

I’ll take a look. I haven’t really examined the bottom comments before. Also I just learned about the Barbara pit massacre.

I meant the debate is not productive in the sense that we only have our opinions and opposing anecdotes to back up our arguments. I may change my mind after I make the observations you suggested.

And after all, Nutomic said they’d never remove the slur filter, and yet here we are, they caved in after all and effectively fully removed it by making it fully customizable.

I admit, it’s probably idealistic of me to expect all people to follow the guideline of “downvote is not a disagree button”. But I assume most users are already acting in good faith and those who disrupt the intended use (promote quality content, discourage uninteresting content) are a minority.

There is no data that the algorithm is not doing its job on Lemmy. My personal experience show that it does an okay job at least, so I inclined to believe that voting is still more of a good thing than a bad thing. If the problems you mention become significant, then they should be addressed, but only if and when. It’s unlikely that voting on Lemmy is going anywhere, so arguing about it is not productive.

Dessalines puts it pretty well here.

You present very fair points.

A good demonstration of how the voting system is counterproductive is the Steam reviews that are ruined to the point that they’re barely usable as it’s nearly impossible to find a coherent actual review of a game and not a poor attempt at humor, or worse, a copy-pasted award farming sob story.

But Steam reviews are functional and have a narrow task of helping you make a buying decision, so it doesn’t compare directly to a general purpose social network like Lemmy.

I understand how upvotes may promote groupthink and how downvotes may encourage unhealthy self-censorship but I don’t agree that the problem is on the scale of being existential. The general consensus is that voting helps promote quality content and my personal experience with Lemmy so far makes me agree with it.

One of the maintainers has a similar argument against removing voting, but maybe they’re right about the benefits of hiding the counts.

Also I think it would be good if there were fine-grained control for casting and displaying votes.

In my opinion, the problems you mentioned are not caused by the voting system.

• Groupthink is caused by a lack of discipline. Obvious hot takes or otherwise poorly formulated comments should be downvoted. Well presented contrarian opinions should be upvoted. Perhaps educating users on using the system in its intended way – promoting healthy debate or interesting insight – is better than removing the system completely.

• Manipulation is caused by poor bot control, so while removing voting might help somewhat, this would be a band-aid at most. Unless you mean some sort of psyop manipulation that doesn’t involve automation, which voting can, in theory at least, help against by refuting attempts at manipulation.

• Duplicated content I have only seen in connection to the nature of the fediverse so far (i.e., same topic communities spread across multiple large instances). I guess some people would try to farm internet points by posting low quality content, but if people like that content and vote for it, what’s there to be done apart from blocking the community you don’t like?
   

Also Lemmy’s popularity would suffer if it was missing one of the key features of Reddit (“Full vote scores (+/-) like old Reddit.” is listed as one of the main features on the official website).

Are you sure the issues you mentioned are caused by voting? I’m not certain, so I cannot answer your question.

No, I don’t think so, but that’s a different aspect.

YouTube should be a part of the public infrastructure.