You make a good point… In general, no one cares enough to track all this down. That is true. So that makes me wonder… who does/would care? So in a capitalist system, until the day the flow of money is impacted, generally nothing changes.

So if Reddit really is all (or vastly) bots, then aren’t advertisers paying to advertise to bots? And if that is true, at a certain point some metrics will show the yield on their investments is bunk.

Maybe that is how it collapses. I can hope.

I suppose the spirit of the question was “volume of content” vs “volume of accounts”. But there is a problem with loading a lot of content onto a singular account (from a bot detection PoV), and that is that it is easy to detect if an account is a bot if their post history is :

1. Metronomic (or)
2. Relentless in volume

To solve that problem (aka bot camouflage), the maintainers of said bots would use volume of accounts as a disguise mechanism. For that reason I assume that the volume of bot accounts has to scale with the volume of “pushed content” as, in my assessment… if I were running a bot network I’d want to be sure that my most-active bots were only 50-80% as prolific as known-human accounts… then simply distribute your content across those “strategically-limited-spam-bots”.

So as a TLDR I guess what I’m saying is that the volume of accounts has to scale with the volume of influence assuming you’d want your influence to appear organic.

The meta above this would be what, account creation monitoring? It’s an interesting conflict. Influence peddlers vs bot detectors.

What is gross to me is that platforms like Reddit appear to be catering to the influence peddlers. (or in the case of Facebook and Cambridge Analytica… allying with and giving birth to said influence peddlers to the political gain of Zuckerberg’s personal views on politics.)

Should one person have such power? Probably not. Explains a lot of “unexplainable” occurrences happening… back to back to back to back to…

This is the modern incarnation of “billionaires buying newspapers” to maintain control of the narrative.

Just an opinion from someone who has been around the internet for a long while. It wouldn’t surprise me if most of the comments are bots. I remember what it was like to interact with humans, even dumb humans, and they aren’t nearly as blatantly agenda-driven as commenters on what I’d call “visible social media”.

There are plenty of people who have a vested interest in disrupting means of communication and organization and they are investing a great deal in “false idea proliferation”.

My 0.02¢.

Oh, you asked for a percentage, in the popular subs? 80+%. In niche subs that don’t affect the Overton Window? 5-30%. And yes, these numbers are favricated outward from my butt hole.

I agree with some of these things.

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However if you put it on the outside of the bucket nothing changes at all and this comment is a pointless thief of your time and attention. Sorry.

It’s interesting that a “level-headed” comment is one in which bringing up the murder of a US president’s rival is not an unexpected topic.

If that is the new threshold for level-headed then this world has gone insane.

Random guess, it grants some sort of overreaching privilege to some agencies and they are clinging onto that overreaching power?

Anyone got a real answer?

Go to a local video game bar and play socially there.

Be grateful to be a slave. A slave is alive. You could be dead. Remember that you exist to create labor but it is someone else’s job to claim the value of that labor.

Sorry, you were born into the wrong family, now please accept the status quo and do not revolt, rebel, or look into history and how the lower classes have handled power imbalances in the past.

Oh I know, I just wanted a copy too.

Deleting posts from the user PoV was the only way I could come up with to force the API to show them to me.

This is similar to when I heard reddit was doing the API lockdown, I wrote an automation bot over the weekend that self-destructed my subreddit and the entire post history. The bot also automatically downloaded and archived all of the content on my local machine.

It was annoying because at first I couldn’t get access to older posts since at the time reddit had changed their API to only show the first X posts (100 or 1,000 or whatever). So I told my bot to delete the posts as it archived them so as I deleted content, reddit had no choice but to populate the page with the older posts.

And that’s how I archived my subreddit. Reddit banned me two days later for automation, lol. I did not break any of the reddit or reddit api ToS during this process but I guess I upset someone.

I’m bad at tests due to anxiety. Tests usually just elimiate me on the spot so I wish I knew.

Wait a minute, you’re telling me you listen and think about things? I bet you even wear glasses. Someone needs a bit more Pol Pot in their lives. /s

For those who haven’t seen it, I recommend the movie The Killing Fields. If you prefer music, listen to “Holiday in Cambodia”. Same topic in both pieces of media.

Ever listen to the (Tony Hawk Pro Skater OST) song Police Truck by the Dead Kennedys? Nice lil diddy about police brutality.

And every 2pac song was talking about what we would consider “modern issues” 35 years ago. But no, all this “woke” stuff just showed up yesterday…

He’s the one who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
And I say ‘yeah’

Wow, insane. I’m currently reading “There Are No Electrons” written by a member of the Amdahl family. In the opening pages he talks about his siblings and ascendents and talks briefly about Amdahl corp then in the opening to this article this engineer got their start at Amdahl.

Fun coincidence I wanted to share. If you want to read a book about science that sets aside reverence for science and reads more like a Sunday comic, check out the book I mentioned. Especially fun if you’re trained in electronics, tho the author specifically states the book is NOT for those trained in science, haha.

Fair points.

Yes. Like I said I agree with a lot of your points. My examples are intentionally oversimplified to avoid diluting the idea I want to demonstrate.

I hope you understand that I’m trying to help you communicate more effectively, because i think that what you are communicating is valid.

Not everything is an argument. It’s important to understand when people are helping you, or you end up attacking allies. We are likely on the same side.

I actually agree with parts of your underlying idea, but your tone is so awful that you’re convincing people to disagree with you.

You could be like : “I believe in cats because of cat videos.”

But instead you’re like : “What are you? Some kinda ducking idiot? You never seen a cat video? You scared of cats bro?! Small minded population can’t accept cats!”

Surely you understand tone? I hope you are only like this on the internet.

Nah, you aren’t dumb. I think the opinion is dumb, but I’m sure you have reasons for believing the way you do. I suspect it comes from a sense of hopelessness and feeling a lack of control which I can empathize with but do not share. I simply don’t like to see people roll over and give in to such thought because of the types of awful people who have power in this world. This mindset is submissive to those powers and that irks me to anger. That submission boosts the power they already hold. But no, I hold no negative opinions toward you as a person and I apologize if it came across that way, that’s likely my fault.