Very wholesome thread so far so I’ll keep it that way but if anyone can find the Mr. Coffee video that was on NewsFilter.org circa 2006 please PM me a link. Its haunted me for years.

And yet that is the answer I most relate with.

Like, why dont people who can just move?

Kind of a catch-22.

America is the best country in the world, if you’re rich. Once someones earning a lot and saved up move to New Zealand money the appeal isn’t as strong for most.

immediately go for northern europe

Oof. That’s akin to moving there in 1938. Bit of a risky proposition to say the least.

I wouldn’t move there now if allowed and I don’t even have illegally move to Mexico money.

Wow that was a great read. Leif comes across as very perceptive on multiple fronts here.

Unfortunately I think his warning about the internet ending up like “souped up TV” is looking more likely by the day.

Right now it’s quite easy to force a site or service to bend the knee to outside pressure. No matter how right or wrong that pressure is. People will go after hosting and ISPs, if that doesn’t work they’ll tie people up directly in the courts. You must provide real contact info and be willing to play ball if you operate on the old web.

Embracing encryption is the only thing I can think to do to avoid that. Which honestly kind of sucks, because while true anonymity would save sites like Omegle who act in good faith and police themsevles in a reasonable manner, others that don’t will also be protected. I think the pros out weigh the cons with anonymity but that is a hard pill to swallow for many.