Article: https://proton.me/blog/deepseek
Calls it “Deepsneak”, failing to make it clear that the reason people love Deepseek is that you can download and it run it securely on any of your own private devices or servers - unlike most of the competing SOTA AIs.
I can’t speak for Proton, but the last couple weeks are showing some very clear biases coming out.
Since ditching Proton for Tuta and Mailbox…I haven’t missed anything and I’m saving money.
You have two email addresses in both Tuta and Mailbox? Any particular reason for that, that you could share with us? 🙏
I have two domains, one in each of Tuta and Mailbox. It was originally so I could try both out, but now I figure it doesn’t hurt to keep 'em separated. I’m still new to non-proton so I am sort of still feeling things out.
Nothing really too interesting or tricky about it, just bred out of curiosity.
Ah I see. So now to the possibly tough question, if you had to choose only one, or recommend only one of them to someone who wants to make a minimal amount of new email addresses, which one would you recommend over the other? 😅 Or maybe a third option?
I think I’d need some more time to really answer, but on the outset, I find Mailbox.org’s interface more intuitive with more settings and generally feels cleaner and more streamlined. Creating aliases and domain aliases in mailbox seems more proton-like in its simplicity.
Tuta I think is more private and secure, but bits of their interface and app need polish. One reason I think Tuta is more secure despite them both touting security and privacy is that Mailbox search works immediately, whereas Tuta requires you to agree to a permission and states it stores everything locally to you so it may take up space. I think Tuta isn’t doing any server-side indexing of any kind? Unsure.
edit: Mailbox doesn’t have a native app, and Tuta has a native app but I think it’s largely a webview. Notifications work OK but you’ll click on a notification and then have to wait for the app to actually connect and resync before you can view it.
Yeah, Tuta has only permanent aliases, so once you’ve created one of your 15 aliases or whatever, that’s a permanent reduction of available aliases. And Tuta has no email masks, like others have.
And the searching is quite annoying, because they have zero knowledge of your data, so the searching needs to happen locally on the client. A consequence of the full encryption.
Personally, I’m okay with less encryption in order to make the searching a more smooth experience. But they will never change that.
Just following up on this, I stumbled on this: https://tuta.com/mailbox
I think it might help. I could definitely see that depending on your use case, Mailbox may be a better choice. I think for general privacy they’re both good, with Tuta having a few “a step above” offerings security-wise but maybe not necessary for most users.
Goddammit I had such high hopes for Proton. Was planning on that being my post-Google main. Now what. 💀
I’ve been happy with Fastmail for 10 years, though they’re Australian and not European. Might look into a European alternative at some point but so far I’ve had no reason to switch.
Quite expensive, but the price per GB is better. On the other hand, I also don’t need that much space.
I’ve heard of Startmail being an alternative, it’s based in the Netherlands but it’s quite expensive ($7/month) and it’s owned by an adtech company (System1)
Yeah that’s way expensive for the same amount of storage as Tuta at half the price.
