• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    Yes because China 1 child policy could never have such an effect.
    Russia too has extremely low fertility rate too, (also before the war) Of around 1.4, where the necessary number to sustain the population is 2.1.

    ALL developed countries have this problem.

    So please come again and explain more clearly what it is you actually mean by the above moronic comment.
    Is it that truly communist/socialist countries remain poor with short lifespans, and thereby maintain their fertility rate?

    Edit:
    Downvotes don’t change the truth, I know very well the countries I mention aren’t communist, except one claims to be, but they are different countries than traditional capitalist societies. Make better examples if you can.

    The truth is as I write, nearly if not ALL developed countries have birthrates below 2.1. So again, show me this amazing society that does better, and has a sustainable birth rate.

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      Because there is no capitalism in Russia or China? Last time I checked they are very much capitalist countries since more than 40 years now. And the one child policy is basically abolished in China, which no real effect on the low number of children born.

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        The demographic trends in communst countries don’t differ at all from similar capitalist countries.

        China is a unique case.

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        So what is this amazing society that is better, and has a sustainable birth rate?

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          To my mind, it is one we could build together, through collaboration and solidarity perhaps

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                No capitalism is about free markets, democracy is a form of governance.
                When China introduced their 1 child policy they did not have free markets, and Russia didn’t have free markets for 100 years.

                And neither of those countries are doing any better regarding fertility rate than many traditional capitalist countries.

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                  And why do you think they are not doing better right now?

                  Like I don’t want to defend the USSR or China under Mao at all, but the USSR had significantly higher birth rates when it still existed, and the one child policy of China was precisely implemented because they had a too high birth rate back then.

                  However the common situation now is that neither have any longer and that seems to somehow correlate with them adopting capitalism like pretty much the rest of the world. Of course correlation isn’t equal to causation, but the comment that started this argument was much less “moronic” than your’s.

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                    USSR had significantly higher birth rates when it still existed,

                    USSR was a poor country, and most other countries also had higher birth rates.

                    one child policy of China was precisely implemented because they had a too high birth rate back then.

                    Again China was a poor country.

                    So all you are doing is confirming what I already wrote that poor countries have higher birth rates.
                    China has been easing the 1 child policy, but the birth rate continues to decline.