• it_depends_man@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Imagine there’s a huge fuel station that’s so big they essentially set rules towards suppliers that they can’t offer their gas to other stations at a cheaper price otherwise they can’t sell it in their station with 95% market share.

    That is specifically not what is happening.

    https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys

    “Steam Key Rules and Guidelines”

    “You should use Steam Keys to sell your game on other stores in a similar way to how you sell your game on Steam. It is important that you don’t give Steam customers a worse deal than Steam Key purchasers.”

    Valve does not “dictate” prices in any way.

    Ubi and WB are free to sell their games for as cheap as they want. But if and ONLY IF they offer a steam key with the purchase, they can’t undercut steam.

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      This isn’t about steam keys, it’s about a most favored nation clause. It’s a fairly common clause when selling across multiple platforms. It can be considered anticompetitive in some cases. It’s also pretty standard in retail agreements. It’s why name brand products are generally the same price everywhere.

      The same thing would happen if Walmart found Sony was selling PlayStations cheaper on their website than in store.

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        It’s not even that. It’s about Steam apparently trying to enforce a clause that doesn’t exist. The most-favored nation clause applies to Steam keys only, but Steam allegedly sent Ubisoft a nastygram about them selling a non-Steam version for less.

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        2 days ago

        “give us your money or let us install cookies” yeah no I’d rather not read the article then.

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          “I will opine on something I refuse to learn anything about, as it is my god given right”.

          Sounds about right.

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                Just for you, I gave Eurogamer my information to farm and sell of to the highest bidder. And I learned nothing new. Ubisoft want to have their game on Steams store, Steam says “alright sure, these are the requirements”. Ubisoft breaks that agreement, Steam says “then we won’t sell your game”. Okay? So? No one is forcing them to sell on Steam if they don’t like it.

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                  Those requirements being that they cannot price the product lower outside of Steam, even if the specific version of the software doesn’t use Steam at all.

                  And by the way, this wasn’t on a contract, it’s a non written policy uncovered on email correspondence between Valve and Ubisoft.

                  Maybe you should try reading the article for real this time.

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                    Steam only takes a share on sold copies. Having YOUR game on THEIR site while selling it cheaper on your OWN site would effectively be leeching free exposure off of Steams front page. How is it not reasonable for Steam to not want that?

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                    Speaking of God Given Rights, “we want to sell our games on Steam but not on their terms”. Don’t like it? Don’t do it. “but they have the largest market share 😢” , because you keep selling on their platform. I don’t understand how this shit is so hard to grasp.

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                  I hope that, at some point, you get to appreciate the irony of not wanting to accept some cookies because you don’t want to “pay with your privacy”, while you ardently defend Steam, a platform that doesn’t even tell you what they do with your data or who are they selling ads to.

                  Here’s the archived version from Bloomberg: https://archive.ph/YvHxF

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      Uplay doesn’t offer steam keys. The game version they were selling wasn’t even available on steam.

      Steam keys have fuck all to do with the monopolistic shakedown that valve is enacting to fix PC game prices.

      Stop blindly supporting this bullshit behavior. It’s right there in the article you didn’t read.