You can absolutely be an alcoholic and not have it interfere with your job or personal life. That’s easily half the people in my AA meetings and how a lot of people get there.
I have zero desire to argue or discount your own experiences with addiction, but in my own experience with NA and AA, both supporting my late wife and by myself, a generous portion of AA meeting attendees are court ordered DUI offenders who wouldn’t meet anyone’s qualifications of addicted and binge drinkers proactively stepping down their drinking before it becomes an addiction, with maybe 20-30% holding onto chips with more than a week or two on them.
Appreciate that and ditto, but people shouldn’t hand-wave away DUIs. There is never a need to drink, getting in legal trouble for drinking is by definition problem drinking.
I think, if I’ve read him right, he’s not hand waving a dui he’s pointing out that a binge drinker would’ve not gotten the dui in the first place because they have a handle on their heavy consumption, where as, an alcoholic does not and would not taper off their consumption leading to the dui?
As we know an alcoholic needs the booze to function, the effect can be invisible if they take steps to conceal it, so in a way that is affecting their life or job by all the extra steps needed to accomodare the habit.
You can absolutely be an alcoholic and not have it interfere with your job or personal life. That’s easily half the people in my AA meetings and how a lot of people get there.
I have zero desire to argue or discount your own experiences with addiction, but in my own experience with NA and AA, both supporting my late wife and by myself, a generous portion of AA meeting attendees are court ordered DUI offenders who wouldn’t meet anyone’s qualifications of addicted and binge drinkers proactively stepping down their drinking before it becomes an addiction, with maybe 20-30% holding onto chips with more than a week or two on them.
Appreciate that and ditto, but people shouldn’t hand-wave away DUIs. There is never a need to drink, getting in legal trouble for drinking is by definition problem drinking.
I think, if I’ve read him right, he’s not hand waving a dui he’s pointing out that a binge drinker would’ve not gotten the dui in the first place because they have a handle on their heavy consumption, where as, an alcoholic does not and would not taper off their consumption leading to the dui?
I think they didn’t describe it 100%.
As we know an alcoholic needs the booze to function, the effect can be invisible if they take steps to conceal it, so in a way that is affecting their life or job by all the extra steps needed to accomodare the habit.
Tastes like gold