And the author of this article is tying himself into a pretzel trying to absolve Tolkien of this great shame.

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    But I read the article and understood the explanations. And they don’t hold up to scrutiny. Even Tolkien’s own daughter was ashamed of his view of the war.

    Priscilla Tolkien, the author’s daughter, born in 1929, commented that the “whole period of the Civil War cast a great shadow over my father’s life and is a powerful and lasting memory from my childhood.”[1]

    “Tolkein loves fascism”

    Where did I say that?

    And lastly: calm down.

    You seem upset. There is no need to use swear words and engage in mud throwing.

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      “Tolkein loves fascism”

      Where did I say that?

      Your title is “TIL Tolkien supported fascist Spain”.

      You don’t have to be a super sluth to see what you’re saying between the lines here, saying “well I didn’t say those specific words” doesn’t work with people who have reading comprehension.

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        He literally cited me as saying that?! I have every right to call that out.

        Besides, everyone agrees that Tolkien supported the nationalists in the Spanish civil war. Saying that “Tolkien loves fascism” is an entirely different topic.

        Devil’s in the details.

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          Oh please, we know exactly what you’re saying directly as well as implying. Someone summing it up simply doesn’t change the message.

          Unless … The only reason this wouldn’t make sense is if the summary was off…

          Are you saying that Tolkien didn’t love fascism, or are you saying that the nationalists during the Spanish civil war weren’t fascists? Are you glad he liked them?

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            we know exactly what you’re saying

            If ya’ll know my secret thoughts then tell me what I think bout ya’ll’s MOMMAs!

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              If I had to guess… It’s you dodging the question. I’m just going to assume you liked Spanish nationalists and don’t think they were fascists.

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                I’m just going to assume you liked Spanish nationalists and don’t think they were fascists.

                That’s actually insane of you.

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                  I mean, that’s one of the only reasons you would argue against someone saying that you’re claiming Tolkien loved fascism.

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                    I’m leaving this conversation. But I’ll be sure to hide in your walls and turn your USB ports upside down.

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      Your title is literally “Tolkien supported fascist Spain”. So sorry I read between the lines and used the no-no words to call out an unfair, dishonest, and deeply stupid title, enjoy your holy refuge in civility.

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        Your title is literally “Tolkien supported fascist Spain”

        And that’s not true?

        used the no-no words to call out an unfair, dishonest, and deeply

        Calm down.