@tranquil_cassowary@infosec.exchange @ocelot221@mastodon.social @mhoye@cosocial.ca @mulchmaxxing@blahaj.zone There's a high chance of devices being sold with it preinstalled in 2027 but probably not for the initial launch.
TBH while I like some of the specs, I don’t want to spend $1k on another phone that can’t run normal Linux distros (indirectly locking it to Google’s enshittification) and lacks expandable storage.
this. Also, safety concerns. Global south. Robberies and larcenies. I can’t just have a $800 brick on me all the time. I can barely replace the $150 one when it gets stolen or breaks. Unfortunately I am forced to participate in this smartphone system, and I remember when the most expensive phone was $300. 🤡
If you need security I would recommend that you overcome your predispositions and either get an affordable phone that is supported by graphene (a pixel) or an iphone.
If you do not need security then no worries, but it would be a shame to end up in a bad situation because you felt it was a bridge too far to use a phone from a particular company.
i don’t mind using a google phone, i just want to do everything in my power not to help google – both directly by giving them money for a phone and indirectly by helping keep the resale value high.
the only threat model have come as a result of the us federal government and the local police. even w graphene, i’m hopelessy outclassed by the former and lineage has proven itself is good enough for the latter for less well funded police departments, but it’s unclear about bigger ones.
i would prefer graphene, but the only viable way is to do it w a used pixel and they’re both more expensive than the $150 brand new phones that i’ve been using thus far and it’s also silly to disregard the extensive history of bad luck i’ve had with used phones.
some part of me wishes you hadn’t shared this. lol
i’m too clumsy & absent-minded w phones to ever reasonably expect my phones to last beyond 1.5 years and paying $1k+ makes it hard to justify.
and i also hate google too much to ever buy a pixel – new or used – so that’s a complete non-starter.
i’ll probably end up going with lineage instead of graphene because of it.
TBH while I like some of the specs, I don’t want to spend $1k on another phone that can’t run normal Linux distros (indirectly locking it to Google’s enshittification) and lacks expandable storage.
Gotta do what you gotta do!
this. Also, safety concerns. Global south. Robberies and larcenies. I can’t just have a $800 brick on me all the time. I can barely replace the $150 one when it gets stolen or breaks. Unfortunately I am forced to participate in this smartphone system, and I remember when the most expensive phone was $300. 🤡
that was the last time i bought one that costed more than $150. lol
If you need security I would recommend that you overcome your predispositions and either get an affordable phone that is supported by graphene (a pixel) or an iphone.
If you do not need security then no worries, but it would be a shame to end up in a bad situation because you felt it was a bridge too far to use a phone from a particular company.
i don’t mind using a google phone, i just want to do everything in my power not to help google – both directly by giving them money for a phone and indirectly by helping keep the resale value high.
the only threat model have come as a result of the us federal government and the local police. even w graphene, i’m hopelessy outclassed by the former and lineage has proven itself is good enough for the latter for less well funded police departments, but it’s unclear about bigger ones.
i would prefer graphene, but the only viable way is to do it w a used pixel and they’re both more expensive than the $150 brand new phones that i’ve been using thus far and it’s also silly to disregard the extensive history of bad luck i’ve had with used phones.
You should look closer at fed/police capabilities. Only graphene and ios consistently defeat graykey or cellebrite.
Even small departments have these capabilities or can get them on loan from bigger ones.
If that is truly something you’re worried about you should weigh your exposure to them against how much you want to not help Google (or apple).
Google or Apple won’t notice if you do or don’t buy a phone that’s their brand. You will notice if the police are able to look through your device.
People who put their principles above their own safety can be easily put in situations where they’re in danger.