And there it is. Fuckers.
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Goddamn this guy can’t go one minute without being a complete piece of shit, his death will brighten my day
His death with be celebrated all over the world. I imagine it will be second only to Trump’s at this point.
It will be a toss up between him and Putin and Netanyahu.
I’d still like to see his ass deported though
No, Putin’s Death would be celebrated more worldwide than musk, possibly even Trump, but I wouldnt bet on that myself
I just still cannot believe that happened and just…no one cares.
Musk is charging Ukraine $2500 per month per Starlink terminal, for over 250,000 terminals. Musk is making bank for shitty service (it’s not fast enough for gaming) and then he cuts services for partisan purposes, costing Ukrainian lives.
The upsell maneuver reminds me of when Verizon tried to do the same thing to California wildfire response services when communications cut out during disaster control efforts. That didn’t play well, either.
it’s not fast enough for gaming
Dawg, you need like a 5 megabit connection for online gaming, if even that. Starlink offers multiple times that at the minimum.
I can understand it being too slow for many things, but gaming is one of the worst examples you could’ve possibly given.
Couldn’t find a reliable source for the 250,000 figure. The closest thing I could find was 50,000 in 2025.
I hate this as much as you do, but come on, don’t make shit up.
The co-founder of the Ukraine Defense Fund, which has helped secure Starlink access for the Ukrainian military, told The Atlantic that he estimates there are now over 250,000 Starlink terminals in use across the war zone.
I found the article in The Atlantic (Paywall bypass here):
[Musk’s] company has earned hundreds of millions of dollars from the Starlink terminals operating in the war zone. Liscovich estimates there are well over 250,000 of them. In the past, SpaceX, which runs Starlink, has reportedly charged the Ukrainian government $2,500 per terminal each month, and it has cut off service when bills go unpaid. Earlier this month, when U.S. military officials asked SpaceX about the outages in Ukraine, the company advised switching to an upgraded contract to restore Ukraine’s access, U.S. officials told us. (Musk and SpaceX did not respond to questions for this article.)
As for incapacity for gaming of Starlink, that’s anecdotal, having heard it is a problem from fellow gamers here in the States that depend on Starlink. There’s enough of a lag to disallow for common action games, although this is a known issue consistent with all satellite internet services. Hence the need for rural ISP buildout blocked by the big communications oligopolies (and presently the well-bribed Trump administration)
You’re remarkably antagonistic for a Lemming. Are you sure you’re not a Musk-shill or a bot?
I found the article in The Atlantic
Fair enough, I couldn’t find that article.
here’s enough of a lag to disallow for common action games
Lag is different from a lack of speed, which that person claimed. Lag = latency, nothing to do with speed.
You’re remarkably antagonistic for a Lemming. Are you sure you’re not a Musk-shill or a bot?
I really really really hate this redditor style tendency to call everyone who corrects facts they want to believe in a shill or a bot. I couldn’t have made it more clear that I’m not a Musk fan:
I hate this as much as you do, but come on, don’t make shit up.
It’s just that I’m overly concerned with facts, likely due to my neurodivergence. These kinds of comments feels kind of ableist, although that again is probably something I might get shit on for, as you’re not supposed to call out ableism on this platform.
I don’t understand this bot thing either. I haven’t seen a single one of these bots you’re talking about. Repost bots, sure, but agenda pushing bots? The entities that push that stuff clearly aren’t interested in this platform yet. On Reddit it’s very obvious.
“Fast” doesn’t just refer to the download speed, it also refers to the latency.
By any competent gamer’s standards, WiFi is slow. Starlink is untenable.
One “special” mind to another, a head for facts doesn’t preclude you from being wrong and/or needlessly pedantic.
Are you really comparing latencies od GEO sattelites 35.000km away from earth to LEO sattelites that stay at 500km?
C’mon, starlink latencies are very close to normal cable internet
Bandwidth doesn’t matter for gaming - latency does. You could have a 100Gbps connection, but if it has a latency of 1000ms then it’s useless for gaming.
Yeah, but I bet those ping times are just awful. And that can definitely interfere with gaming.
I thought so too, then I googled it. It’s actually not a bad latency at all. Better than some cabled connections I’ve used in the past.
Might not be very stable though.
Hmm, that’s somewhat surprising. And agreed on stability being sus.
In the end, though, even if it was a perfect connection, I would never know cause fuck that guy. With a 2x4 with rusty nails in it. Obviously.
Agreed!
Download speed isn’t the problem with satellite are you dense?
Teslas in a few years:
“We notice that you’re in an uncontrolled spin; uncontrolled spins violate Tesla’s terms and conditions; your airbags have been deactivated. Upgrade now to the super spender safety plan for a one off payment of $30k to unlock instant airbag activation”.
The dispute isn’t that they’re not allowed to use Starlink for murder drones, it’s that the murder drone plan is more expensive.
SpaceX is not actually supposed to even have direct control over Starshield. It uses Starlink infrastructure, but is a military application that is supposed to be under the control of the federal government.
SpaceX shouldn’t have the option to pitch different plans.
Musk needs to go to prison
There’s a reason the Soviets had gulags.
They were created by people just like Musk.
Yeah that’s true, but we have to hold these people accountable without resorting to fascism and violence somehow.
The gulags were not fascist torture camps. Many of them were barely even prisons, like they were towns where people could move around freely and even go to the theater. They were definitely work camps, where people repaid their debts to society, and the ones for political prisoners had heavy reeducation programs. They were successful, too. Many of the people who were imprisoned for anti-communist/fascist activity became committed socialists by the time of their release (not surprising given the logical nature of Marxism).
There’s a lot of misinformation out there about gulags, but when I say Musk belongs in one, it’s because he needs to work to repay all the damage he has done and if possible he needs to be re-educated. I don’t believe in prisons as punishment. I also don’t believe in capital punishment for people like Musk.
Stalin’s purges must have been an educational tool as well then.
Soviet archival evidence shows that the purges were democratically initiated by the party at large and were initially very popular due to the real problem of capitalist sabotage They got worse when the NKVD became overzealous and stepped beyond the bounds that were given them. The evidence shows that Stalin actually spent more time trying to reign in the excesses, but was often unsuccessful largely due to the weakness of the Soviet state that was recovering from a brutal civil war.
Of course, the purges were very excessive and rightly considered one of the big mistakes of the Stalin era, but the idea that they were his is ahistorical.
No dude, Stalin was a facist at heart and only used communism to further his agenda. He killed anyone who he felt threatened his power and with paranoia. Idk where you get the idea that he was trying to reign in the purges. He wasn’t. Doctor’s Plot, the red purge, holodomor, his hatred of Jews, there’s way too much. Everyone was happy to see him gone, at least secretly (refer to the secret speech). He had terrorised all of USSR.
While the politburo did sign off on the purges (never said they weren’t complicit) it was NOT a democratic process. You need representation of voters there.
You’re focused on the “infrastructure” part of "forced infrastructure " and not the more important forced part.
I dislike your eagerness to accept all that bullshit you just said.
People have a fond outlook of what the USSR was like. They neglect to see that they were an authoritarian society with a single party in charge which was willing to do anything to remain in power.
Gulags were horrible places on all accounts.
That wasn’t real communism. Just an ideal hijacked by meglomaniacs.
Well, I dislike the propaganda that capitalists force down most of our throats. I like looking at the actual historical record instead.
Or hanged.
He should definitely be charged for the deaths he caused in the Ukraine
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Never forget that during California wildfires less than 10 years ago, first responders were cut off from communications because Verizon cut them off.
I’m glad that incident is getting remembrance now. We’re now seeing how capital control of services is a national security risk.
Elon Musk is exhibit A in the case for why the people need to seize the means of production.
<Bolshevik chorus swells>
“Oops! It seems you have reached the maximum usage for your plan! Please call a representative to find a plan better suited to your particular usage volume, or text “$5B” to top up with extra credits.”
They keep testing the waters with this shit, cut their balls off to stop it
“pray i don’t alter it any further”…That extortion has an end date, hopefully 2030, when the EU’s Iris2 gets operational. Until then however Elon can play his nasty game, at least for the higher quality level of the service.
*fingers crossed
is that not a sensible and highly ethical strategy for opposing a war?
Literally what would make you think that?
The antiwar strategy would be to not let them use Starlink for war. This will never happen because Starlink was developed for the US Department of Defense
No, because its done with no regard to those caught in the war. It’s just exploitation.
The guy that nazi saluted on live broadcast twice did this? Not shocked at all seeing the attrocities the nazis and communists did to the Ukrainian people.
Either someone buy out Starlink, Space X, and Tesla or create a better company would be great in the current timeline.
The fact that a country under attack needs to pay for these kind of things is already insane by itself.
@realitaetsverlust @technology It’s true, there is no free lunch.
I always hated this saying. So sad that so many folks have never had a friend buy them lunch 😭
@kestrel7_7 *Somebody* always pays in some way, eventually. But I agree the spirit of your sentiment.
Yes, because Musk needs more money.
Of course. He needs to get his building sized exploding metal dicks less explody soon, or his fucked.
But they literally make them explode for the shits and giggles. They even say so in their schedules lmao
Said by same people who furiously applaud when shit blows up again.
Yea, makees no fucking sense to me. Like, its supposed to be reusable yeet you blow it up, like, come on
Idk why he’s obsessed with mars. He wouldn’t be going. Even his money couldn’t create a magnetosphere.
There’s sand and rock. Maybe some ice. Complete desolation. That is Mars. Even Elon’s money couldn’t fix Mars. Mining an asteroid for rare metals would make more sense, but I doubt it’s feasible.
That’s the only thing that makes sense. Exploiting mars for minerals… I don’t think there are any worth the time of development and shipping back to earth… I might be wrong tho
Asteroid belt is closer. Even so, who is doing the mining? Do we have a lot of people trained in space mining and EVA suit maintenance?
Space drones, probably operated remotely from storage/service/habitat hubs. There would also be great opportunities for research and development and other scientific pursuits if the cost to build develop and maintain those stations is paid for by the mined minerals
Hope the EU can get their own network up fast, because Elon is Ukraine’s enemy, he will always cut off service when they need it most.
