ok

I can’t juat start calling you names and making fun of you becauase of the rules

Well, not nice, again

So there’s rarely an “We already live paycheck to paycheck” situation and its more often than not accidental pregnancies? I mean come on… Who the heck cannot afford condoms or birthcontrol? If you can’t then you probably shouldn’t be having sex in the first place, to be honest. Again, not like anybody’s forcing you (excluding rape)

Mentioned it in other replies, there are cases where adult people clearly do understand the consequences while not being forced into it by any 3rdparty. I exclude the cases where they are raped or uneducated

Well like I said here, we don’t take those cases into account. What drives people who do understand the consequences to do it and then complain?

That’s the interresting part, you can’t 😀 and so its even more reason not to condemn yourself and a kid to bearing the load of being on a punishing side of the Matthew Effect. Just saying… IF I were them as they say or whatever

Yeah, like I said, excluding rape and lack of education its your choice to make a baby so if you believe in personal responsibility then you should (I think) apply this same princible to that choice and its consequences, but for some reason people treat it like its exwmpt from that rule

Nah, that’s not what I am saying. IMO, you just dont reproduce until you are 100% sure that even IF you lose your job, you’re going to be fine

fair enough

yeah them

Well, charity is nice ofc, but don’t you think they should have put more thought before mindlessly making a baby?

It doesnt really conclusively tell us that I have an agenda and I don’t

human right

seems like a belief of many people here. Ok

1. So your description of “natural” is “something we would die off without”? Ok. But that only makes sense on a populational level, an individual won’t die without producing offspring. And my question was specifically targeted at individual judgement. We aren’t a hivemind, you can act differently than the people around you.
2. Like I said, any reasonable person understands that the possibility of life storms (such as being laid off, having health issues at some point in your life, child being born with disability) is the thing that should be accounted for. Otherwise… You haven’t thought that through, now have you 🙃?

🙂 And who is to blame for that? And if you believe in personal responsibility and freedom of will, shouldn’t it be treated like an unreasonable desicion then? Same way you treat eating at a fancy restaurant and then not having any money to eat for a week.

3. What do you mean, “the situation”? It sounds like you’re suggesting that having a kid is something out of your control. Which it isn’t (unless you like believd in determinism or whetever, but we’ll just go with a mainstream belief that is that people can control their actions). You make it happen.

ok

I never said that

Ok ok, youve turned the wrong alley, buddy. Im not judging the poor or the rich or anyone or having🤐🤐 any thoughts or/and opinions about how society should and shouldnt be. Like in the other replies I am just asking why is it that in case of wanting children (a luxary) the judgement is different than in case of wanting a nice car (also luxary, albeit, less expensive 🙂)

Well… My point kinda is. Should you? 🙂 Like at all? (if you can’t afford it)?

Thats your assumption. I am just not interested enough in other people’s shit, thats all. Why would I be? 🙂 Is it a bad thing? I mind my own business and do my own thoughts