• Natanael@slrpnk.net
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    Ok then if you’re right why was Netanyahu mad at Biden? Why did he want Trump to win? Because there’s no such thing as unlimited support and then wanting to remove the person you’re getting unlimited support from

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      Do you understand that a lot of politics is theater? You have to watch what people actually do, not what they pretend.

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        Ok so then why are you refusing to look at what people actually did?

        Edit: Trump has been pushing for ethnic cleansing so he could have waterfront casinos and you guys love him

        You’re all a bunch of traitors

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          I think because your definition of “what people actually did” and mine differs a lot. Either that or we are talking past each other.

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            Yeah, your crowd decided to help Republicans guarantee more people got killed and tortured.

            But you’re pretending you have no responsibility for the consequences of your actions because you’re such an ideologically pure idealist

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        This is a russian/eastern perspective. Theater has no effect on real life politics does. They are NOT the same. If you act like they are you are part of the problem.

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          This is a russian/eastern perspective.

          No its not. This is the plain western world reality that politicians lie and posture. If you think you can trust what they say then I dont know what to tell you.

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            Yes they lie but that is not theater. That is a lie. Do you not know the difference? This kind of mindset is exactly what im talking about.

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              In Biden/Harris’s case of supporting the zionists while pretending to be against what they are doing-- with nonsense like his idiotic and pointless floating dock, and his very temporary freeze on one type of munition-- “lies vs theater” seems to me to be a distinction without a difference.

              And do you remember all the times we heard that Biden and Harris were negotiating feverishly with netenyahu and talking about their concerns, for the Israelis to then say Biden never called them and there has been no communication at all? So how do you see that distinction between lies and theater matters at all?

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          This is a russian/eastern perspective

          Pro-genocide centrists (there is no other kind) say this about everyone who disagrees with them on their only policy.

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            You can not be anti genocide and actively assist Republicans in making the genocide worse.

            If you genuinely oppose genocide you’re obligated to oppose those who want to make it worse, and yet you’re helping them

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              If you don’t like genocide, it means you support genocide - the genocide wing of the democratic party.

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            No i say this to anyone trying to downplay the severity of political involvement. The fact you dont understand this is exactly why

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              The fact you dont understand this is exactly why

              I love how centrists imagine that people don’t understand them when they’re just not buying their flimsy justification for genocide support.

              If centrists wanted anything more than they wanted genocide, they would actually have fought for something harder than they did for genocide. I don’t think any of you ever will.

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                I’m pretty sure you’ll call the students who protested centrists for not being successful enough too

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                  Centrists blocked progress and supported genocide. Centrists have never been more successful at the only things centrists are for.

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      Because Biden’s base was less pro-genocide, so no matter what Biden himself did, strategically the republicans would always be a safer bet.

      There was no level of support the dems could offer that would have caused Netanyahu to support them over the republicans.

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      Who gives a fuck! You ghouls care more about your fucking parasocial kayfabe character drama than the lives of millions of people

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        You call it kayfabe and call me a ghoul and then you’re choosing to help Republicans hurt billions

        That makes you a monster

        Edit: you saw what project 2025 would do and decided to help people like Musk, Miller, Bannon and Trump, so that they could escalate the suffering, because YOU WANTED IT, because you prefer seeing people die if it means USA loses status, you’ll rather see people martyred then fed by aid from a source you find offensive

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            I am consistent in calling you out for selectively doing whatever helps Republicans

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                Then where’s the real fucking reality grounded criticism, because when you’re lying you’re actually helping the enemy