I’ve seen several references to some sort of rift between the users of these instances today. What’s happening?

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    27 days ago

    It’s the authoritarian part LW disagrees with. I think the .world admins would have long defederated ML, but since the lemmy coders are situated on .ML, thats not such an attractive option. Desalines and Nutomic are hardcore tankies and bigots, which crush any dissenting voice on .ml. Even worse, if you want to support lemmy development, the finances of .ml and development budget are intertwined, so every donation for lemmy also supports tankies. It’s the reason i switched to piefed,

    If you want examples of how those two run their digital kingdom, take a look at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works - most posts are about .ml.

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      27 days ago

      MeanwhileOnGrad is run by a Zionist, and the comm itself serves as a bit of a Nazi bar. Many of the posts also erase vital context, or otherwise misframe users.

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        26 days ago

        Lol, of course the place that stands to document y’alls crap gets slanderd by the people it’s documenting

        Literally authoritarian 101 lmao

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      The “tankies” have the same platform as pretty much every real life communist organisation, lemmy.worlders have the same platform as your generic European social democratic party.

      I’d have more respect for people just admitting that they’re anti-communist rather than trying to redefine and obfuscate the meaning of the word.

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        27 days ago

        No they don’t, apart from edgy internet leftists who haven’t studied any political theory outside of their sheltered internet canon. The modern internationale, Jacobin, etc, actively avoid the idiotic campism and autocratic baggage the tankies cling to as they relitigate the cold war. There has been a century of revisionist leftist theory since Lenin’s “theory” about how everything Lenin does is great even if it is transparently hypocritical. Most of the leftist world has moved on, but tankies still live on that mountain.

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          This absolutely reeks of western exceptionalism. The “leftist world” is far more than what social democrats in Europe and North America think. Communists in the global south aren’t going to be lectured by people from wealthy imperial core countries on what the correct kind of leftism is.

          There is still a very deep colonialist mindset here, and one that won’t be found amongst actual communist orgs that are politically active.

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            27 days ago

            The absolute gorgeous irony of MLs saying they don’t want to be lectured about politics.

            But hey, I’m not your psychiatrist, so if you want to maintain this delusion that ML orthodoxy represents some singular, uncorrupted ideal which actually holds any relevant influence anywhere in the world, then by no means will I interfere with your monumental significance.