This is actually sad

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      It for sure sucks now! Lieberman killed the public option and things have only gotten worse since then as we haven’t taken on the usury of insurance, PE hospitals, and pharma, but the ACA was a step in the right direction that’s been continuously sabotaged ever since it was implemented

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        but the ACA was a step in the right direction

        The ACA was a turd with some rhetorical polish. That’s it, and anyone seeking health care in this country knows it.

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            Pretty lazy response.

            I’m not a Donald supporter. I’m just also unwilling to pretend that a regressive health care system is a good thing because it came from the Blue MAGA instead of the Red MAGA, especially considering Obama could have (and should have) done better. .

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              I’m not a Donald supporter.

              You’re every bit as intelligent as one. You’re Blue MAGA, you fucking idiot.

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                I’m voting blue regardless, and I hope that the person you’re responding to probably will as well. I liked Obama’s approach, his demeanor, but not everything that he did. Despite that, I voted for him twice.

                MAGA, pretty famously now, has no principles. They require loyalty to trump despite any policy flip flops.

                His not being a fan of something Obama did because he thinks Obama should have known and done better is somehow following a MAGA playbook?

                I know where you’re coming from. I’m terrified that Putin’s goon squad will somehow wreck any chance of recovery in November. But I doubt I’ll stop being critical of the Democratic leadership. Instead of having the approach “view blue despite all these internal party issues” we should be trying “vote blue and get involved to help us fix these issues.”

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                  I’m voting blue regardless, and I hope that the person you’re responding to probably will as well.

                  This is an ignorant approach. Do your homework, think for yourself, and vote based on the candidate(s), not solely party affiliation.

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              Lol, you sure have a lot of opinions. What part about it is ‘lazy’?

              Edit: What is your plan? Enlighten us wise one.

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                  22 hours ago

                  Is it any more ‘lazy’ than this person jumping straight to Obama as the responsible 'party 'when the ACA is mentioned?

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                    For better or worse it was his flagship legislation.

                    I don’t really care though, it isn’t a laziness competition.