I can’t ever tell what is critical to people. I got my wife her first MacBook last year. She’s used it three times and hates it. I’m like… red yellow green, and everything else is just like iPhone. Nope, she despises it.
I moved my daughter from windows to Linux Mint, and she barely noticed. She can’t use her VR the same way, and that was the only difference that bothered her.
So I can’t say you wouldn’t hate Linux, but I can tell you I don’t want my hobby to be fucking with OSes and Mint was perfect. You can just use it. Steam games, browsing the web, damn near everything works exactly the way you’d expect on Windows. I don’t happen to need a second computer after my work MacBook, but if I did it would be Linux for sure.
Well, except no OneDrive. Which another point in Linux’s favor.
For the Mac, I’ve had opposite experiences thanks to all of y’all online. Both my ex and my youngest kid wanted Mac’s, but I was the one cautioning that they may be popular but they’re different and some people don’t like that. He wouldn’t even try mine: I have windows, Mac and an assortment of Linux he can just try at any time
Jokes on me, I spent a ridiculous amount of money buying my kid a school Windows laptop (with him there apparently not speaking up) since that’s all he’s ever used, and I had to return it for a Mac
Don’t take anything I’ve said as being anti-Mac. I am much happier to be on Mac than Windows. I would be happy on Linux as well, perhaps happier, but the corporate world being what it is, it turns out Linux doesn’t make it easy to load a computer up with a bunch of spyware.
Okay, I’ll be fair. Windows and MacOS are like… 3 things (If you still support Mac on Intel). Linux is like… 500 OSes. Even if you strip it down and support the most common, you’re looking at Arch (so customized that might as well be a separate OS for each user), Ubuntu, Fedora, and maybe Mint. So it’s way more work to support Linux even if Linux were as easy to support as Mac and Windows, and I believe it is not.
I’m very happy with my Mac. But my wife hates things that change. She’s one of those people who will hang onto a 15 year old laptop because “everything is the way I want it,” even if it’s all janky as hell.
I’ve been successfully using SteamVR on atomic Fedora. If she also uses SteamVR, I’d be happy to write details about my setup (though it’s fairly standard)!
I think so. She has an oculus 2 and she is trying to connect wirelessly to Steam VR. I haven’t really tried myself for a couple of years. It used to work fine on windows, at least wired. Wireless never worked that well for me.
I never got it to work in Linux but I haven’t tried in a couple of years and I assume it’s gotten better since then.
I’d say here we go making os a hobby, but it took some effort in windows, too.
Ah, I haven’t used wireless VR yet, so I can’t comment on that. Planning to wait for the Steam Frame, I’m sure Valve will make it work well enough. There is a project called ALVR that I keep reading about in the context of wireless VR on Linux, might be something to look at if you wanna dig deeper.
I’d argue that my setup allows you to not treat the OS as a hobby, but your mileage may vary :) I’m using an atomic Fedora variant (specifically Aurora, which is focused on developers - but there’s also e.g. Silverblue (Gnome) or Kinoite (KDE) as normal day-to-day versions, and Bazzite which focuses on gaming). Steam is running through Flatpak, and everything else - SteamVR & the games themselves - honestly just worked for me. Sometimes SteamVR shows an error after starting, in that case I have to quit, unplug my headset for a few seconds, plug it back in & start SteamVR again, but other than that it’s been a fairly painless experience.
I should mention that I use a Valve Index, but as long as you’re using SteamVR, things should work the same.
I can’t ever tell what is critical to people. I got my wife her first MacBook last year. She’s used it three times and hates it. I’m like… red yellow green, and everything else is just like iPhone. Nope, she despises it.
I moved my daughter from windows to Linux Mint, and she barely noticed. She can’t use her VR the same way, and that was the only difference that bothered her.
So I can’t say you wouldn’t hate Linux, but I can tell you I don’t want my hobby to be fucking with OSes and Mint was perfect. You can just use it. Steam games, browsing the web, damn near everything works exactly the way you’d expect on Windows. I don’t happen to need a second computer after my work MacBook, but if I did it would be Linux for sure.
Well, except no OneDrive. Which another point in Linux’s favor.
I put Ubuntu on my MacBook a few weeks ago.
For the Mac, I’ve had opposite experiences thanks to all of y’all online. Both my ex and my youngest kid wanted Mac’s, but I was the one cautioning that they may be popular but they’re different and some people don’t like that. He wouldn’t even try mine: I have windows, Mac and an assortment of Linux he can just try at any time
Jokes on me, I spent a ridiculous amount of money buying my kid a school Windows laptop (with him there apparently not speaking up) since that’s all he’s ever used, and I had to return it for a Mac
Don’t take anything I’ve said as being anti-Mac. I am much happier to be on Mac than Windows. I would be happy on Linux as well, perhaps happier, but the corporate world being what it is, it turns out Linux doesn’t make it easy to load a computer up with a bunch of spyware.
Okay, I’ll be fair. Windows and MacOS are like… 3 things (If you still support Mac on Intel). Linux is like… 500 OSes. Even if you strip it down and support the most common, you’re looking at Arch (so customized that might as well be a separate OS for each user), Ubuntu, Fedora, and maybe Mint. So it’s way more work to support Linux even if Linux were as easy to support as Mac and Windows, and I believe it is not.
I’m very happy with my Mac. But my wife hates things that change. She’s one of those people who will hang onto a 15 year old laptop because “everything is the way I want it,” even if it’s all janky as hell.
What kind of VR setup are you using?
I’ve been successfully using SteamVR on atomic Fedora. If she also uses SteamVR, I’d be happy to write details about my setup (though it’s fairly standard)!
I think so. She has an oculus 2 and she is trying to connect wirelessly to Steam VR. I haven’t really tried myself for a couple of years. It used to work fine on windows, at least wired. Wireless never worked that well for me.
I never got it to work in Linux but I haven’t tried in a couple of years and I assume it’s gotten better since then.
I’d say here we go making os a hobby, but it took some effort in windows, too.
Ah, I haven’t used wireless VR yet, so I can’t comment on that. Planning to wait for the Steam Frame, I’m sure Valve will make it work well enough. There is a project called ALVR that I keep reading about in the context of wireless VR on Linux, might be something to look at if you wanna dig deeper.
I’d argue that my setup allows you to not treat the OS as a hobby, but your mileage may vary :) I’m using an atomic Fedora variant (specifically Aurora, which is focused on developers - but there’s also e.g. Silverblue (Gnome) or Kinoite (KDE) as normal day-to-day versions, and Bazzite which focuses on gaming). Steam is running through Flatpak, and everything else - SteamVR & the games themselves - honestly just worked for me. Sometimes SteamVR shows an error after starting, in that case I have to quit, unplug my headset for a few seconds, plug it back in & start SteamVR again, but other than that it’s been a fairly painless experience.
I should mention that I use a Valve Index, but as long as you’re using SteamVR, things should work the same.