• sunsofold@lemmy.zip
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    13 hours ago

    Many are not surprised. Those that are might be so because most of the other inane BS they spout is met with cheers from the yes men that cling to fame, money, and power like lampreys.

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    21 hours ago

    Hey OP, why do billionaires flex their power to protect a genocide and are surprised when it comes with consequences?

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      12 hours ago

      That is exactly my point right there. Why not just keep their mouth shut about it. Unless they are giving intel about the situation that can help save lives on both sides then they should shut the fuck up.

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        I can think of 3 million reasons why Macklemore making a statement would save lives (1 reason for every $1 raised so far)

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    3 days ago

    This is a very broad question. But broadly, I think if you’re an artist, you probably got where you are by sharing your point of view with your audience in an authentic way. If you’re going to let fear of disapproval stop you from doing that, you might as well quit anyway.

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      2 days ago

      your point of view

      Yes.

      But being really really good at acting or playing music does not necessarily translate to having a particularly wise or well-informed view on moral philosophy, social science, or geopolitics.

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        We elect world leaders who don’t know anything about any of those things. Why shouldn’t a singer or actor use their voice, too? At least they had the discipline to learn a craft.

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          We elect world leaders who don’t know anything about any of those things

          Good leaders surround themselves with intelligent experts of diverse opinions and try to make an informed decision.

          Some of us try to elect leaders like that. Others… go for reality tv actors

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        2 days ago

        Well of course not. But everyone has an opinion and if they want to express it then so be it! If you’re a celebrity I can’t even imagine what that’s like. But I respect if people say how they truly feel if it’s heartfelt regardless - but I guess that’s also the catch 22 too. If you’re a celebrity you might need to carefully craft your public opinions since the wrong thing could put you in the baddie category.

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    If this is about the Macklemore incident, he started off by saying that he isn’t a victim and neither is Ed (apparently his friend for a long time). The victims are the Palestinian people.

    As to why make statements on “controversial stuff?” How else can you be an agent of change? What’s the alternative, to see mass slaughter going on funded by your taxes and stay quiet?

    If this is about some other incident, then I don’t know, but I think you’ve misread the Macklemore case (if it is about that)

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      2 days ago

      I actually meant it in an overall compassing but Mack just happened to pop up on my news feed.

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    I’m not certain they aresurprised. Not universally. Plenty of them know that they’re going to cause a shitstorm, and either don’t care, or specifically want it…

    Hell, some of them will say shit that’s not universally accepted for the same reason I do, when I do so. Sometimes it needs saying.

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    Because saying it is bad to bomb children should not be controversial and we need to set that expectation.

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    Some people who have a platform feel like the guilt of NOT using their platform to speak out on “controversial stuff” IS a consequence.

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    The moral turmoil of using your celebrity to speak out for something you believe in, or keeping your multi-million dollar career afloat.

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        Can’t really blame someone for trying to do (what they believe is) the right thing. A lot of good causes have come from people using their platform to raise awareness.

        The people who suffer the consequences, probably weren’t talking about good causes, but they must have believed that they were. And more people openly share terrible opinions when they think that a lot of others feel the same way.

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        Speaking out in public also helps, doesn’t cost much, and it’s (almost) free publicity as long as you don’t fuck up. Being famous also doesn’t mean that you’re automatically rich, especially musicians often have shitty contracts and many burn their wealth in dumb ways (high risk investments, parties, addictions etc.) or just spend lots of money on projects that flop.

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        Receiving money from a celebrity won’t be much comfort when you are bombed to death at age 6. It is wild that people are trying to make this seem normal. Pushing back is the morally correct thing to do.

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    Because celebrities live inside a delusion where their audience is a passive wall that only exists to reflect their brilliance. When they step out of their narrow domain of expertise (acting, singing, nodding while someone else writes their policy), they treat reality like a film set. where they can ad-lib whatever they want and if the scene falls flat the director will just call “cut”.

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      Not looking for a fight or anything just can you explain MackleMore, I thought he was a has been. Where was his set sat at?

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        Maybe you should have made it clear you were talking about the Macklemore situation and asked a more specific question.

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    I think it largely comes down to existing in a bubble. With a certain level of celebrity, you’re mostly surrounded by staff whose job it is to cater to you. That comes with a lot of casual sycophancy, which can lead to thinking your ideas are more mainstream than they really are.

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    I have a guess on about what and who this is but why not specific it? This question can be about all sorts of things that a celebrity does.

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    Sounds like this is about the Macklemore situation. I haven’t really seen him be necessarily surprised by what’s transpired, but he’s well within his rights to be critical of the actions taken.

    People with platforms can have strong opinions on matters just like everyone else. They have a platform that many of them earned (obviously not all) so it’s theirs to do with it what they want. There’s zero chance that Macklemore didn’t know this was a possibility. He believes in standing up for Palestine and calling out a genocide, so he put his neck on the line to support those beliefs. In this case, he gained a new fan from me today. People that are willing to do that earn some respect from me. On the other hand, someone like Ronnie Radke who also is very outspoken, I’ve removed from my music rotation because I think he’s a shit person. Similar to Kid Rock, but other than a couple of his classic songs I enjoyed as a youth, I didn’t listen to him anyway. In both examples, I’ll smear the shit out of their name to anyone that will listen.

    Actions have consequences, and rarely are any of these people truly surprised when they reach the ‘find out’ phase, but they may act like it to try and save face.