Feel free to be loose with your definitions. “Not usually considered a drug” is fine to qualify as “non-drug”, for instance. I’m not really thinking so much of “foods”, though, but maybe “food ingredients” and substances found in food ingredients are fine, especially if they’re quasi-drug-like or if you’d get a lot of the same benefits/enjoyment from it consuming it straight rather than in food.
Also ITT, tell other users why their substances actually are drugs actually.
Mine:
- Chamomile - good for my mood and gives me vivid dreams.
- Capsaicin - I and Wilbur Scoville are well acquainted.
- Cacao - I don’t really do cacao any more because I’ve quit caffeine, but I include it here because I still miss sucking on unsweetend baker’s chocolate daily.
Music. It’s mind-altering and mood-altering.
Cheese. One of its ingredients, casein, can trigger opioid receptors.
I love that erowid is still alive and kicking.
I’d have died in my 20s without it. Like, literally.
Giving my pets scritches.
Yes sameee
Or when my cat gives me headbutts.
English Mustard. A nice thick layer of it, as in, thick enough that you question the structural integrity of the result, and everyone else questions your sanity, in a cheese (other fillings are available) sandwich will light your day up. The heat is different to capsaicin, you feel it more in your nose and sinuses, but it has a similar effect. You get a mild, giddy, flying feeling for a moment, then settle down into a haze of sensation. The endorphin (I assume it’s endorphins anyway) release feels great, all my muscles relax, and it’s a pretty good painkiller too.
sold! that’s the calm I’m up for
Seconded. I like to slather steaks in english mustard. My partner and kids think I’m insane.
Another annual tradition for me is leftover Christmas ham, in white bread, with loads of english mustard, while sitting on my ass watching the cricket.
Starch.
Specifically, potato.
More specifically, fried somehow.meditation and early hypnangogic sleep stages, just watching my brain do weird brain shit. sometimes I get this insane, intense sensation of being/observing something formless and simultaneously infinitely large and infinitely small. like my location/place neurons doing some kind of existentially overwhelming hardware stress test lol
Ginger and Valerian (interestingly Valerian is the component of most bedtime teas that’s associated with vivid dreams. You might actually be reacting to that, check the ingredient list on your tea or supplement).
Have you got anything against vivid dreams?
I want complete darkness until my alarm goes off.
Now it is the 2AM “Weeeeee! I lost my pacifier” and the 5AM “Daddy can I sleep in your bed”…Nothing OTC or supplement
Good call, but the chamomile I do is just bulk “Egyptian chamomile”. Not any kind of a “sleepy-time tea” or anything like that.
In the past I’ve done Celestial Seasonings Sleeptytime Vanilla. Love the taste. It doesn’t have any Valerian either, though.
I have done Cup of Calm by Traditional Medicinals which is a mix (it doesn’t have any Valerian, though) but it’s honestly a little stronger than I’d like. It’d be fine on a once-in-a-while basis, but I wouldn’t want to do it daily.
I honestly don’t know that I’ve ever consumed Valerian now that you mention it. 🤔 Maybe I’ll try some sometime.
Sleepytime extra does (it’s the extra).
Sugar. Would love to get rid of but for one it’s everywhere and if I minimise I will suffer and be insufferable.
It’s not a drug but sure has identical properties…
Oh, favourite. Well, it’s a love hate abusive relationship.
I once spent an entire summer giving up as much sugar as possible. No sweets, minimal added sugar, minimal processed food, pretty much my only sugar was fruit. I ran every single day.
I was miserable. Insanely depressed, grumpy, exhausted, moody, awful cravings and just so generally unhappy. None of this “I quit sugar and now I’m so full of energy and feel so healthy and happy!” Absolutely the opposite. At the end of the summer I had lost exactly 4 lbs and it wasn’t because I had gained muscle mass either.
Said fuck that, life is about balance and if I can’t eat ice cream once in awhile it’s not worth being alive. But sugar is absolutely addictive and it gave me a new perspective on anyone trying to quit anything like cigarettes or heroin.
Yes, exactly this. I get really miserably depressed. I can not stress how much. And if a craving hits in vicinity of sweets or such, everything gets so much worse bo matter the outcome (resist or cave in).
So I settle with more or less controlle dosages.
I’m dealing with what I’m pretty sure is SIBO and am basically currently on a no suger diet, natural or added, and looking at the extreme low FOD map diet of no sugar, no gluten, no dairy for a while. It’s really hard to avoid all added sugars, they put that shit in fucking everything and you can’t trust the nutritional labels because they can say 0 grams of sugar per serving if the serving size is small enough. (Classic example is tic-tacs, ingredients are basically just sugar, but per serving size they can claim 0g of sugar because the serving size is one tic and one tac)
All that to say, cutting sugar out of your diet is definitely doable, and honestly I’ve never felt healthier about my diet as much as I hate how it’s being restricted.
There are infinite ways to combine rice and beans and meats with spices that are nutritionally complete. You probably wouldn’t have any issues with veggies either so that opens up the diet considerably.Oh my gosh. I get violently ill and can’t stay out of the bathroom when I eat sugar. (I’ve told people, “yeah, sugar makes me sick so I don’t eat it”. And they’re like “oh yeah, me too, the sugar crash in the afternoon always makes me feel so blah.” And I’m like “listen…”.) I basically haven’t eaten anything sweeter than a tomato in 20 years because it’s super not worth it. I’d never heard of SIBO, and I don’t have any letters after my name, but this SIBO thing sounds very much like my experience.
Not that having a name for my symptoms would really change much to speak of. It doesn’t seem like there’s much of a treatment for SIBO aside from eating in ways that don’t trigger it. But hell. At this point, if there was a cure, I don’t think I’d take it. I’ve only had one cavity in the last 20 years (and I suspect that actually wasn’t a cavity but rather a resorption). Keeping my weight in a healthy range is way easier without sugar in my diet. My taste buds have adapted a lot and things that wouldn’t taste remotely sweet to anyone else taste super sweet to me, so I don’t feel deprived in that way. I have a lot more appreciation for more complex and stronger flavors like bitter, sour, spicy, etc. And I appreciate having that “biofeedback mechanism” that tells me (and not subtly) “hey, that’s bad for you; cut it out”.
(I cut gluten out of my diet the same time I cut sugar out of my diet and my symptoms abated. I’ve had a couple of times when I’ve had sources of sugar – granny smith apples and bing cherries specifically – and my symptoms came back. But I haven’t had occasion to experiment with gluten to see if having gluten would give me symptoms again. I just haven’t tried it, so I don’t know if I’m sensitive to gluten or not. I don’t make restaurants break out the gluten-free deep fryer or anything. I just ask them to leave the bun off my hamburger or whatever. But gluten is another thing that I just don’t feel deprived for lack of and don’t see how my life would improve any by putting gluten back in my diet. Maybe some day I’ll have enough bread to figure out whether it affects me the same way, but I don’t have any plan to do such an experiment any time soon.)
And, yeah. I can attest to your point that cutting sugar out of your diet is entirely doable. I virtually never miss it, and in the very rare cases when I do, it’s more of a mild nostalgia than anything you might call a “craving”.
Yeah that’s the thing, if I lower sugar too much or cut it out entirely for like two weeks, I get very moody and depressed as lonefighter described. So much that life is no longer bringing any joy and that’s not overstated. It’s just how my body feels about it - or was conditioned over time.
But it seems you are different, which I am happy for, at least you can avoid that poison.
Chocolate
Kava. I like to mix it with lavender, chamomile and valerian root for a very mellow calm.
Staying up until 1 to 2 am. I feel more creative in the evening, but in the night, I don’t have the energy to commit to a vision, so I just kind of imagine a few different things poorly
So many of my projects are getting manic and locked in until 3 am, then the next day I’m burnt out and tired and never finish it. I’ll get around to it eventually, but only because in procrastinating another project I never finished.
I love some spicy food, oh yeah.
Music and movement, dancing can feel like a drug.
Something in sleepytime tea hits me almost like a good indica. I think it’s the valerian root, because regular chamomile tea doesn’t do it.
Something to keep in mind; virtually all commercial tea bags release insane amounts of microplastics in every cup (like millions). Recommended to cut open the bags and put the tea itself into a stainless steeping ball to avoid the plastics.
The only commercial bags I know of that are actually made of wood based paper and are safe are Yogi tea bags.
Bigelow teabags are also made from wood pulp and also dont use any adhesive (their pyrimid bags use a corn/sugarcane adhesive tho, but still no plastic)
It is if you’re specifically getting sleepytime extra (it’s the extra). It’s likely gaba active iirc the limited research correctly. The newly sober from sedating drugs often use it for insomnia during the post-acute withdrawal period.
Playing guitar, thrashing a scale up and down without making any mistakes makes you feel like you could eat gods.
I hit all the wrong notes, still eat gods.
Eat ‘em up, baby, eat ‘em up.
Eat 'em and smile
