I’ve been looking at phones lately and I’ve seen this company called Enough from their YouTube kickstarter video. It’s them and SLEKE (maker of OdesseyOS) working on building a nice size phone. I’m thinking of supporting their kickstarter because I am tired of these humongous phablets, and I can’t stand on how they feel in my hand when holding them.

The phone has everything I want but I am really wondering if the bootloader will be unlockable.

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Some important edits that should be added; (after looking on Enough’s website and kickstarter)

  1. No unlockable bootloader
  2. No sideloading
  3. On Enough’s website, storage is expandable by MicroSD or that same space is using a physical SIM card and you have the option for eSIM
  4. No headphone jack, but a USBC to 3.5mm converter is given if you do the kickstarter
  5. Stock android or OdessyOS only (from SLEKE); no flashing capabilities at all
  6. Replaceable battery
  8. Price of phone from kickstarter:
  9. Super Early bird price: $399 USD (sold out)
  10. Early bird: $449 USD
  11. Kickstarter special; $499 USD
  12. Retail price after campaign: $599 USD
    • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
      5·
      5 days ago

      🤣 no, that was by accident. I was trying to create a spacing but it still listed it as a numbered list.

  • SpaceBishop@piefed.zipEnglish
    30·
    6 days ago

    I might have simply missed it, but I didn’t see mention of expandable storage, and the provided storage is quite small. I also specifically noted the lack of 3.5mm (they will provide a USB adapter, but those are frail and prone to failure). Bluetooth is nifty and all, but when I’m on mile 7 of a marathon or even a half and my headphones die, I will be filled with a supernova-class rage that a reliable wired option was never provided (an inevitability). All that, mixed with the low specs, is completely a nonstarter. If there was a headphone jack I might feel differently, but this ain’t it.

    Slightly related concern, did anyone see that extremely condescending video from Nothing that was basically like “small phones are for nerds, and only idiots want phones thick enough for headphone jacks. Want to debloat your software? How about no OS at ALL so this expensive gadget does not function!” Talk about rage baiting. Fuck those guys.

    • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
      14·
      6 days ago

      I remember that video. I was in full support of Nothing until that came out, I lost complete respect of them after that. Just another company that went completely against their motive and a wanna be Apple😒😒

      • Mirror Giraffe@piefed.socialEnglish
        9·
        6 days ago

        Nothing is so weird, adding AI buttons that can’t be remapped and adding lots of new unasked features to their OS.

        They had a niche and botched it completely.

      • SpaceBishop@piefed.zipEnglish
        12·
        6 days ago

        Yeah, same. And I was not prepared for the level of outright contempt they showed toward their fans with that one. “These are our most requested features by our customers,” proceeds to call them nerds and laughs as they brag about not building said features.

        • Echo5@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          6 days ago

          Literally every feature was something that sounded good to me. Even no OS I can work with as long as I can install one. Just save me a few extra bucks that way

      • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        They do but its in the same spot as the physical sim. So its either one or the other with esim. They have more then enough room to make a spot for physical sim and micro sd; i dont get why they didnt go that route.

  • dog@reddthat.comEnglish
    18·
    6 days ago

    The iPhone 5/5s was probably the perfect phone for me in terms of comfortable one handed use. Something like that again would be perfect.

    • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
      5·
      6 days ago

      Yeah… that size is perfect. I remember having the 6s plus ( my first iPhone) it was 5.5 in, so only .2 inches taller than the Enough Phone. When that phone was done, I struggled with finding a phone I was comfortable with ever since.

  • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    6 days ago

    Company: I don’t wanna make a big phone. Waste of resources, engineers say no difference.

    Older users: I want a big phone. I can’t see shit on the existing models

    Company: ok I’ll make one, but it’ll cost ya. Markets small and all that, plus old users are not in line with our brand.

    Older users: ok done.

    Fomo users: zomg! More expensive phone must be good! Buys them. Does the exact same thing on the gigaphone

    Company: hey, we might be on to something here. Proceeds to add useless features no one wants or uses whole jacking up the prices.

    Older users: wtf is this phone asking me for my satellite launch codes?

    Capitalism sucks.

      • bampop@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        6 days ago

        I always bought the smallest smartphone I could get my hands on until I hit my late 40s and my eyes weren’t so good anymore, now I get the biggest. Don’t know why companies don’t just cater to both. Different people got different needs.

      • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        I loved the 4. I dropped it while looking for a lost dog, and ran it over with a car, which finally broke it for good. I tried to get my account transferred to a friend’s old iPhone 4, but the guy at the store (this was before SIMs in iPhones, I think, so they needed to transfer your phone service over in store) said he literally couldn’t do it and tried to sell me the 8. No idea if that was correct, but I didn’t buy it.

        • Coldcell@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          6 days ago

          If the solution presented at an Apple store is “buy new product” it’s likely just fishing for a sale. Use a 3rd party and they’ll do the work and not gaslight you.

          • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            6 days ago

            Oh god, I didn’t go to an Apple Store! I went to T-Mobile (iirc, but maybe it was Cingular?). Probably not significantly better, but nobody looking at me with two iPhones 4, one smashed to smithereens, and one just most of a decade old, thought they were getting a sale, lol

            This was before I was able to go outside of my provider (I had been a T-Mobile customer and I brought in a sprint iPhone, back when they were still locked and I didn’t have a SIM card yet- after that, I could switch to whatever). I eventually brought the guy a 5s and he could switch it over, but it was 2019, to be fair, and the 8 was the oldest option they had available in store.

    • magnue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      I think it’s simply that there’s a balance between the usability of a small screen vs the clarity/added real estate of a big screen, and the line between those is different for everyone. The bigger devices tend to have better battery performance too.

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    7·
    6 days ago

    As soon as parts became astronomically expensive, suddenly they’re all interested in scaling their phones down. Just a coincidence I’m sure

    • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      If your talking about the specs, thats defitinely purposeful but the phone is being advertised towards the digital minimalism community, hence where SLEKE comes in. The phone is loosing so much potential and customers by making it too niche.

    • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      The only small phone ive seen that is getting the attention it deserves is the Mudita Kompakt. Ive been paying attention to all the software updates and they look really good, plus you can sideload. Its a minimalistic e ink phone but it has way more features than the Enough Phone.

    • zinge@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      5 days ago

      If it had wireless charging, I would’ve backed the kickstarter already. Without it, I’ll hold on to my S22 for now and see how the reviews go once it’s released. But this is the size I want with most of the features I want.

  • norealme@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    5 days ago

    My favorite smartphone size was sony xperia z1 mini And favorite size of dumb phone - nokia 3100

    • Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.orgOPEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      I wish I was able to experience a Nokia, they’re such cool looking phones, but Apple pushed everyone out of the US market when they came along

  • BurntWits@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    6 days ago

    I don’t need a new phone anytime soon but if I needed one, my dream phone would be the build of the iPod Touch 5 (I love the small reachable screen and thin body) but with a good set of cameras, long battery, and modern features, and without risking bending or anything. Not possible I don’t think, at least good battery in such a small package, but that would be my dream.

    Funny enough I have a large phone right now. I love the battery life but the size does really bother me. I like to use my phone with one hand but it’s incredibly inconvenient with a large phone. I don’t have tiny hands but barely reaching the opposite edge of the screen isn’t the most comfortable.

  • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    6 days ago

    God I hope not.

    One of the reasons I went with a Samsung Fold 7 instead of a Fold 6 was because the the screen was bigger. Bigger, higher resolution display = more screen real estate. Honestly I wish the inner screen was 1-2" bigger. (But no I don’t want a tri-fold cause I’ll break it).

    FWIW, I use a 65" LG OLED as a monitor and I regret not going with an 80" instead. Screens can never be big enough for me. I used to own a projector for a giant 120" image, but once you go OLED, you don’t go back.