• paperbenni@lemmy.world
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    3 years ago

    Not sure what to think of this honestly. Like imagine a small email provider decided to block Gmail, that’s a death sentence. It’s impossible to get people to switch apps when they have to leave behind all of the content and people they used an app to interact with. And let’s be honest, threads is going to run at a loss for a long time to grow their userbase before they start pulling weird shit. We need to have a migration path when that happens, and if threads is blocked everywhere, people will lose their content and contacts upon switching, so they won’t do it.

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      I see where you’re coming from, but you’re underestimating scumpanies like Meta et. al. https://infosec.pub/post/400702

      In an ideal world, your suggestion might work. Unfortunately it will fail in practice. How are we to determine when it’s not too late to migrate?

      Personally I don’t care for those users. If they want to blindly follow their piper, let them. But I don’t want that cancer ruining more OSS.

  • HM King Charles III DG FD@feddit.uk
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    Don’t see why people are doing this. You’ll just damage the fediverse and discourage meta from federating, granting them their own walled garden that you cannot use without selling your soul to them, which is going to dissuade people from using Mastodon as what’s the point if people on threads cannot see what they have

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        Would you mind explaining how they’re going to do this with fediverse? Like explain using your own words and not just linking that same article everyone is spreading around. It seems like no one is cabable of giving ELI5 or even ELI15 answer to this.

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          You’re a woodworker. You’ve developed skills that only few have. Carpentry Inc. approaches you regarding a partnership: you share your skills, they offer you their platform. Win-win, right? Now Carpentry Inc. decides to adapt the knowledge you provided, cutting you out of everything. You’re powerless against a multi-billion corporation. All your years of work are gone. You’re nothing more than an afterthought.

          That’s more or less the playbook.

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          Damn, I think everyone missed that detail! We’re talking about two completely different companies here – my mind is blown! Just look at the Hemming distance between “Google” and “Meta”! I’m convinced! Meta will never follow Google’s footsteps.

          Now how about you take a nice, cold shower and re-think your comment.

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        Thats unfortunate. I’ll be moving instances then. Giving Meta a chance is a lot like giving a mosquito a chance to not suck your blood.

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          This behavior is why the fediverse alienate users and makes it hostile for new people to join.

          They didn’t do anything, yet. Give them the chance but start with 2 strikes on their account already. They fuck up, THEN you defederate. Innocent until proven otherwise.

          Edit: go on, downvote me. Show me your face. Show me how you’re all against growth on Lemmy and niceness to each other.

          • HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org
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            Innocent until proven otherwise is a concept for criminal court.

            We aren’t putting someone in jail, we are looking at their past business practices and deciding not to do business with them based on their obvious habits.

          • Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemmy.world
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            Innocent until proven otherwise.

            There are many years of proof already about facebook/meta acting very maliciously, actively breaking laws and being fined for it, is that not proof enough? How many more do you need before you can say they’re not innocent at all?

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            Innocent until proven otherwise.

            Corporations like Meta have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted to play nice with anyone else. Have we already forgotten about Cambridge Analytica or the plethora of other scandals they’ve been at the center of? The proof has been in plain view for a while now.