As always I can explain further if need be.

  • Hikermick@lemmy.world
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    They get people to join the military by offering them free college. If everyone got free college there would be less incentive to join the military

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    It’s not free, and it has some limitations. You have to spend years in the military, risking being killed and agreeing to murder people for that money. If you’re a woman, there’s a significant risk of rape as well. Then, if you went to school before joining, but didn’t get it in writing that the military would pay for all your student debt, they won’t. Then, finally, if you survive, come out the other side in good enough mental condition to not off yourself, and go to school, your tuition is limited by certain stipulations. Depending on where/what you want to study, it might not even be enough.

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      This. My father did 12 years as an officer and took a severance package while getting the military to pay for his PhD. Now he’s a professor. My father had a ROUGH and real poor upbringing, and military was the only way out of that hole. He only originally joined because he got my mother pregnant and needed a job that would cover medical and military has about the best healthcare you can get, not to mention the opportunity for education and such. If you live in America and want to benefit from socialist practices that are more common in other countries, you can join the military or you can move 🤷‍♂️

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      the vast majority of military service members do none of those things.

      it is actually difficult to be in in an active combat role, they weed people out from them.

      80% of military serviceman are in support roles. 90% if you are in the air force.

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    The US Military doesn’t offer free money for education. The years you have to commit to the military to get that money isn’t free.

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      And you have to legit risk death, even if you’re a reservist, many of whom have died in this stupid unwanted war in Iran.

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        Yes absolutely and not just during war time and not just dieing. It is a very dangerous life. You can get maimed or and seriously injured that will effect your entire life. It is a bunch of people moving heavy equipment around in very challenging situations.

        I knew three guys who had permanent disabling injuries just by doing day to day Army stuff. Two blew out a knee just by landing wrong when jumping off a tank. The other’s lower back completely fucked up when a heavy tent support fell on him when he was bending over.

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    Part of it is capitalism, which here in the US is a civic religion. Most people find it an affront that their tax dollars might fund someone else’s college education. (Which I agree is moronic.)

    Part of it is also Joe Biden, who championed legislation that made it so student loans couldn’t be discharged in bankruptcy. (Because he’s a motherfucker.)

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    Simplest answer… the average Joe doesn’t get blown up or shot at while on the job.

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      Anyone working public service can get have their loans paid off after 10 years. It’s not just military service.

    • 𝜯𝐞𝐡 𝜝𝐚𝐦𝐬𝐤𝐢@lemmy.world
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      Gotta entice them somehow. 'Think of the places you’ll be able to visit across the world. And we offer paid tuition.* *Must survive your contract with the U.S. Government who will send you into battle at the drop of a hat, a drop of oil barrel or the rise of a military/president’s ego, to take advantage of offer.

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      military struggles it hit it’s recruitment quotas even with all the free shit, imagine how bad it would get if they didn’t have poors from the smalltown USA fill the ranks.

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      Flip side of that: the government needs strong incentives to convince people to get blown up or shot at while on the job.

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    I don’t understand the question.

    Some government jobs have perks like “not getting shot”.

    This job offers college fees as a perk.

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    As someone who went to college on the GI bill, I was really looking forward 20k in student loan forgiveness.

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    Joining the military signs your life away for 4 years, you obey orders and the laws are not for protecting you as a citizen but as a cog in the machine of military strength.

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      When you enlist in the US military it is an 8 year contract.

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          It has been that way since the mid 80s.

          I enlisted active duty so how reserve and National Guard work I do not know. Both of those still do the 8 year contract. How it works for active duty is you sign an 8 year contract and depending on your MOS and signing options 2-6 years of that will be your active duty commitment. The remaining 6-2 years is called IRR, individual ready reserve.

          For all intents and purposes when you are IRR you are out of the military.

          How the time commitments work for Officers I do not know.

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    because america needs fodder for the grinder, and if you gave the benefits out to everyone…no one would join up, and besides… its not filthy woke liberal socialism when its going to military, its god given patriotism /s

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    I feel the answer is obvious. My company gives me money in exchange for service, so clearly they can afford it, but why do they require the service?

    The government doesn’t give you free college unless you earn it through military service.

    Just to be clear, I do wish the government would forgive loans and make college free for everyone. It’s important to invest in education.

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    Does average Joe work for the government and get the benefit of a college grant due to their employment? If not, there’s your answer. It’s why if you work in public service like education and nursing there are programs to have student debt forgiven as you are essentially performing a vital service for the government.

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      There used to be such programs for teachers and nurses; but many of those promises have been reneged upon, leaving students having to repay loans they would never have accepted had they known the government wouldn’t respect its agreements. I wouldn’t trust that the military won’t be immune to such things soon.

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        It would not surprise me if that benefit goes away. But at the same time, the difference here is for the military you serve, you get the benefit of a college education, then when you go to college, the college is paid for. It is not a loan. So in other words, if for some reason, the government pulled that benefit back then the veteran of the military would know that before they sign up for college.

        But yeah, it would not surprise me if the If the US government pulled that benefit

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        people are betting off going to a public CC/state ofr nursing and teaching, they usually have programs/ maybe waiving some portion of the tuition.

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      dont think so, govt also doesnt pay as much as a privare corp, thats why there are also shortages, i dont know about defense jobs though. but private always pays more, thats why govt is usually kind “stable but kinda dead end”