• neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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    17 hours ago

    Except for Obama. A lot of people outside the US knew Obama, and loved/love him.

    Trump everyone knows, and hates.

    So both sides of the coin here.

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      Yeah, lots of people knew his name and hated him. And I’m not talking US racists. I’m talking the friends and family of innocent people he killed with drone strikes.

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    If you say “I can’t wait for him to die” and the whole world thinks of the same person, it’s probably pretty damn bad

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      I had a longer title in mind that said there was a small chance of it being a great thing, but a much higher chance of it being a really, really bad thing

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        I think you could save this one still. People knew his name before he was elected leader because he was imprisoned by his racist government. That’s not really a good thing.

        Aung San Suu Kyi, for a short time while in power before she tolerated genocide on her watch, would have sort of fit in the Mandela category as well.

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          Ok, Ho Chi Minh, and the one thing that the guy who oversaw crimes against humanity and slavery against Uncle Ho’s people was known for was good. The other things Charles De Gaul did, not so much.

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    Jacinda Ardern and Barack Obama both had a pretty good rep and worldwide appeal. Maybe even Xi Jinping

    Idk if your statement is correct

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      I’ve never heard Jacinda Ardern mentioned until now. And Barack Obama was the first black POTUS (and also ridiculed by some because of that). Xi Jinping is probably the best example.

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      The guy who expanded the drone war to like 8 countries, bailed out the banks after they stole millions of homes, and built the cages for immigrants?

      He looks good next to the guy who invaded Iraq and the guy who is currently bombing Iran.

  • Mr Fish@lemmy.nz
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    A lot of the world heard about Jacinda back during lockdowns, and that was for a good reason

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      The only leader I know that openly confronted consumerism and considered it a priority, as well as the concept of infinite economic growth. He even criticized latin american left parties for having turned poor people into consumers, and not into citizens (as in people with rights)

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        My favorite thing was how he never had security cuz was an authentic national treasure.

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      Part of a Marxist-Leninist urban guerrilla group fighting a democratically elected center-right government. Mujica was variously the sole survivor of a mission to take a telephone exchange, shot six times fighting multiple policemen (he injured two), part of four prison escapes, and lost his mind after years of solitary confinement.

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      He admired and supported Chavez, who was the one who started the destruction of my country, left Maduro here and dismantled all the industry and national trade, and the state’s companies put them in charge of inept people just because they were loyal to him.

      I wouldn’t say he was good if he supported such a character.

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        dismantled all the industry and national trade

        Pretty sure US sanctions did that.

        As far as loyalty is concerned, I think having your president kidnapped and his replacement give us the rights to your oil for 100 years while our deranged leader tells the UN general assembly its ours by right of conquest kinda shows the importance of making sure everyone at high levels is loyal.

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          The US sanctions where another factor, yes, but not the biggest one. The biggest one was his bad administration. He did the same errors than his predecessors, even when he said that he was going to repair those errors, and he did these errors multiplied by ten.

          Even worst, he instaurated an institutionalized corruption mechanism, with a lot of nepotism, despotism, resources and money diversion and tunneling, etc.

          Also, take into account that some of the worst effects of his government preceded the US sanctions on Venezuela, that only made everything worst because he simply stealed harder from the citizens to be able to survive.

          Also he horribly managed our economy, depending excessively on oil and when the 2008 crisis started he didn’t had a second plan and even worse, had a lot of unnecessary expenses.

          Edit: A typo, I hate these 😮‍💨

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    Our leader in the U.S. is a perfect reflection of our conservatives. If you know his qualities, you know the qualities of our conservatives. If you know conservatives, it’s pretty obvious there is no peaceful way out of our situation.

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        Orban

        He was replaced with Peter Hungarian. No, I’m not kidding, that’s what the new guy’s last name (Magyar) means in Hungarian.

        Can’t wait for Trump’s reign to be over and John American to take over.