• Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    To me this is like reading that locks are now obsolete because somebody invented a way to unlock them just by touching them. On one hand it makes me angry that somebody would invent such a thing. On the other hand it means locks have always had this hidden weakness which would eventually be figured out, and now here we are. So what do we do next? I mean, in terms of things that might actually help?

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      So what do we do next? I mean, in terms of things that might actually help?

      Become a society with strong critical thinking skills who values people based on reasoned takes based on experience and science over people who value rapid, loud appeals to emotion.

      One piece of that is recognizing that doing things like putting flat earthers up in high altitude planes or near space is a waste of resources that could’ve been spent doing something better.

      EDIT: that last paragraph was an incomplete thought. Individual flat earthers have done the whole scientific method thing, and proved themselves incorrect and stepped away from it. How do you handle the people that refuse to be convinced? If there’s no level evidence that a person will accept and they’re out in the forest commons chopping down trees to build a tower to whatever is on top of earth, how do you tolerate it at a societal level? It’s still an incomplete thought.

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      8 days ago

      Yup, it’s the nightmares explored in every scifi book with it as a subject. Basically, if AI ever achieves sentience, or we grant it since we’re it’s enslavers, it will be another non-biological species.

      Or grants it? Even scifi has explored “what is sentience?” Hell, it’s one that AI-themed authors explore, like Cmdr. Data.

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    9 days ago

    For years we’ve been told to watch the full clip for context. Now two people can watch the same live event, hear completely different words, and both have video evidence. Microsoft has somehow found a way to make »I saw it with my own eyes« even less reliable.

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      8 days ago

      That’s part of the AI push. Those in power want to retain it - now they can fabricate evidence, or claim real evidence is faked.

      Bonus round: when they make it so that everything has to be stored in the cloud, they can just modify or delete stuff at will.

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      8 days ago

      Hey - I know I’ve asked this before, but you must have forgotten to reply. Are you a real person?

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      8 days ago

      But think how much easier it will be for the Ministry of Truth to retroactively update all the telescreen feed archives!

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          All I’m sayin is that as long as you are using it openly for comedic effect it could be a hoot in some ways. I don’t want to comment specifically on SNL which I’m sure people have varying opinions on.

          Of course the downside potential is greater than any upside.

    • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      I’ve wanted something akin to this for D&D played online. I could activate my “elf NPC” mode and have an elf avatar redub what I’m saying in a distinct voice, inflections to match gender, etc. It’s a very niche usecase and I definitely don’t mind doing a mild voice and having everyone fill in with their imagination. But it would be cool if implemented well.

      Problem is, once this exists, it’s a misinformation nightmare for the rest of the world.

    • Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world
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      It’s clearly to continue our long tradition of blackmail against our shitty members of society and smear campaigns against our good citizens.

      We will keep playing the red vs blue game though.

      Maybe next election will be a “bash at the beach” or cage match or something since our country is really just a large WWE production with nukes

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      It was likely done for censorship. Now, instead of expletives, you’ll speak of puppies and rainbows rather than reality.

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    I don’t see this being any good for anyone.

    But I am really pissed off that this can be patented. Even looking at the patent itself doesn’t look like anything new, its a series of flow charts.

    I see nothing novel or patent worthy here at all.

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      I … see this being … good for anyone.

      … I am really [happy] that this can be patended. … Lookting at the patent itself it looks like [something] new, its a series of flow charts!

      I see [something] novel or patent worthy here … !

      [corrected by [Ad Usum Delphini [tm]]]

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      If I’m being totally honest, I’m so glad it’s patented. I hope they defend the patent aggressively so nobody else can do this. Even if Microsoft has this capability, defending the patent will limit the scope of its usage.

      Bonus points if they defend it aggressively, yet barely utilize it themselves. I’m afraid that may just be wishful thinking.

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    9 days ago

    Even when the goal isn’t misinformation…

    Removing filler words, personal and colloquial terms, replacing words for more appropriate ones according to an “internet search”.

    Who would be subjected to that willingly? Why even use a real human in the process at this point?

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      Not this fucking guy. I think cursing and being able to discuss the mundane (i.e. weather) will be some of the tests we can use to quickly separate AI BS from real people. The weather already works for phone calls. Try it next time you think a customer service person might be AI, just “how’s the weather by you.” Or make a quip about how “it’s raining fucking cats and dogs” you’ll immediately see what i mean by the reaction of the person, or the weird whatever the fuck AI tries to spill at you.

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        I saw a thread about a guy trying to buy a second hand item from someone on a website and suspecting the seller might be AI from someone running a scam. It’s a long string of messages, and all kind of funny, but it’s in French.

        The most absurd part of it was that the bot actually agreed to in-person delivery, with a real address (it probably went off-script). So the guy is like, why the hell not, let’s try it and goes there. Of course nobody’s there so he messages back the “seller”.

        The conversation goes like :

        "Okay, I’m here.

        _ Yes, i’m here at address too, I am waiting for you with the item.

        _ Uhh. Where?

        _ I am just in front of you.

        _ Well no you’re not.

        _ I get why you might be confused, but from my perspective, I can confirm that I can see you in front of me right now.

        _ What are you wearing ?

        _ I am wearing appropriate attire for in-person delivery. It’s comfortable and adapted to the current meteorological conditions."

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      I’m cool with having YouTube videos show the right word in huge letters over the speaker when they happen to use a wrong word.

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    The patent also posits that such a tool could be used to remove filler words like “um” or “ah” from live speech, or to erase stutters or speech impediments.

    That’s kind of fucked up. Let people speak for themselves; don’t “”“improve”“” their speech without permission

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    If it can be done, they will do it. Power is unconstrained by ethics, empathy, or morality. Never assume that anyone in power shares these traits with the rest of us, they do not.

    The only thing that constrains power is enforced laws with teeth.

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      8 days ago

      In America, we don’t enforce the law on those rich enough to pay congress.

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    “If we didn’t create the evil misinformation bot, someone else would have. You should be happy it was a massive corporation that controls this patent, not some soulest unethical entity whose motives are profit over everything. That was a close one. Phew.”

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    9 days ago

    Surely the researchers noticed the skulls on their caps and asked themselves if they were the baddies?

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      The tech it self is “fine” it’s just any use of it that is basically always going to be a problem.

      You can’t make things proactively illegal because it could be used for illegal shit. Unless it can ONLY be used for illegal shit. And even then it’s iffy.

      Else you end up killing progress. It’s stupid, but there’s not a great solution.

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        you can’t make things proactively illegal

        What? We literally do that all the time.

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    A whole new level of fake news to come. Boomers won’t even know what hit 'em.

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      Not even just boomers anymore. I get AI slop shared with me by all ages. I just tell people now assume nothing online is real.

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    wow, way to go Microsoft. I am sure you market it with some bullshit like it helps you prevent live broadcast slips but we all know your wet dream is that fascist goverments line up in your doorstep to buy this tech. It will also remove any sort of accountability from news reporting. Someone can now say “Heil Hitler” on live tv and then say it was an AI fault. Not that they are fazed by such an expression in the US nowadays but you get the idea.

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      Or make anyone say ‘heil hitler’ to normalize the viewpoint and she everyone is ok with it.

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    I hate the patent system so much. There’s already software that does this, all they did was add the word “live” in front. So now they own every live broadcast translation even though the techs been out to do it for a solid 2 years.

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      Patents aren’t given for what they do. They are given for how they do it. Two patents can exist for the same thing they do. But you cannot have two patents for the same mechanism by which they do it.

      That being said, if the patent is “make AI do it”… I’m not sure that is patent-worthy.